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2012/10/18 07:13:53
Freddie H
robert_e_bone


No sweat - Freddie.  Quite difficult to determine through font and shift.

Bob Bone


Cheers mate
2012/10/18 07:19:08
Freddie H
CURTSONG
 
 
I have double checked it. If you make outputs configuration correctly and save it SONAR X2 will work just fine with KONTAKT 5. I have checked what you describe and what is shown in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmskrQgEa8&feature=youtu.be

2012/10/18 08:50:51
Mystic38
Freddie H


CURTSONG
 
 
I have double checked it. If you make outputs configuration correctly and save it SONAR X2 will work just fine with KONTAKT 5. I have checked what you describe and what is shown in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmskrQgEa8&feature=youtu.be



LISTEN UP PEOPLE FREDDIE!
Scott is already back to making music as this issue was resolved before your first post.. If you had followed the thread you will see the fix was post #4, confirmation of bug removal post #10 and video showing its fix post #30... everything else has been discussion and clarification .....it really is not necessary to write posts in huge capital letters.
2012/10/18 15:12:36
Freddie H
Mystic38


Freddie H


CURTSONG
 
 
I have double checked it. If you make outputs configuration correctly and save it SONAR X2 will work just fine with KONTAKT 5. I have checked what you describe and what is shown in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmskrQgEa8&feature=youtu.be



LISTEN UP PEOPLE FREDDIE!
Scott is already back to making music as this issue was resolved before your first post.. If you had followed the thread you will see the fix was post #4, confirmation of bug removal post #10 and video showing its fix post #30... everything else has been discussion and clarification .....it really is not necessary to write posts in huge capital letters.

 
Yes I know, after I post it!
But did you know that it were 64 channels?
Great, now it should be crystal clear how to do it!
2012/10/18 15:35:46
Jim Roseberry
IIRC, Kontakt requests that you exit Kontakt after adding/removing output channels.
In the past (prior to output presets), I would change the outputs as needed and save as the default output assignment.  Then I'd remove that instance of Kontakt.
Now, reload Kontakt... and all should be good.

I think the issue stems from adding/removing Kontakt I/O on-the-fly.


2012/10/18 16:18:51
Mystic38
Freddie H


Mystic38


Freddie H


CURTSONG
 
 
I have double checked it. If you make outputs configuration correctly and save it SONAR X2 will work just fine with KONTAKT 5. I have checked what you describe and what is shown in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLmskrQgEa8&feature=youtu.be



LISTEN UP PEOPLE FREDDIE!
Scott is already back to making music as this issue was resolved before your first post.. If you had followed the thread you will see the fix was post #4, confirmation of bug removal post #10 and video showing its fix post #30... everything else has been discussion and clarification .....it really is not necessary to write posts in huge capital letters.

 
Yes I know, after I post it!
But did you know that it were 64 channels?
Great, now it should be crystal clear how to do it!

I simply dont understand where you are coming from, and right now i dont care.. you clearly didnt even bother reading the thread before launching into your view of the situation.. had you bothered to check, and feel free to read this thread before any reply, the stated problem was confusion on output assignments of the kontakt 16 out VST, which if you start from the default output assignments of kontakt is indeed erratic.. this was the stated issue and confirmed by others... There is just not a simple correlation between what you would expect (st1-st8) and what you see.
By disconnecting the aux outputs and reassigning them in the kontakt 16 out VST as i described you get exactly what you would expect... 8 stereo outs. this as a permanent resolution to the issue with the 16 out vst was also confirmed by others.
 
And yes, yes, Yes Freddie i know that Kontakt (not Kontakt 8 out, or Kontakt 16 out) has 64 possible channels..a fact that has absolutely nothing to do with either the stated issue or its resolution... and I dont doubt your knowledge on the topic, but unless it is applied directly to the issue at hand it really can simply confuse rather than help... after all, Kontakt (16 out) does NOT have 64 outputs...and that is what the question was about.. understand now?..
 
 
 
2015/03/10 17:13:58
BMOG
Hello Robert I am a new users to Komplet 10 and Kontakt 5.  I am focusing on learning how to use Kontakt 5 the way you explained it below.  Is this still the preferred method for using more than one instrument in Kontakt and assigning them tracks in Sonar?
 
robert_e_bone
I have been a long-time NI user and have Kontakt 5 currently running -x64.

I use multiple instruments in Kontakt all the time, but I reset all of the output channels using that batch function to clear the output section and recreate channels with 1 stereo channel for each loaded instrument.

I then rename them to match easy to read output channel names, like PIano, Bass, Organ, etc.  That makes for easier reading at a glance for me back in the assignments in the console.

Also, when I insert Kontakt 5 into the rack, I do NOT tall Sonar to create tracks for all of the outputs supported by K 5.

Instead, I manually insert 1 pair or tracks for each loaded instrument, 1 audio and 1 midi, so that they are ordered like:

T1 - Audio
T2 - Midi

T3 - Audio
T4 - Midi

And then each is paired appropriately associated with each of the instruments.  I do it this way because I like to that kind of order.

The process would certainly be quicker if I just told it to do it on insert of K 5, but it's really not a big deal to do time-wise.

In addition, everything is nicely named for me, which helps out a lot, and doing the above is a one-time deal per project.

I NEVER have problems with any outputs getting mixed up, or accidentally leave a bunch of unused tracks that got inserted just because the instrument supports having them.

Give it a try - I think you will find it a reasonable outcome for a reasonable amount of time, with zero problems stemming from doing it that way.

Bob Bone



2015/03/10 20:50:05
lawajava
The best step by step I've seen on this topic is by our old friend Seth Perlstein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u6dWL-32jI

This clip concisely shows exactly what's needed.
2015/03/10 21:07:47
BMOG
Thank you this is exactly what I needed
 
lawajava
The best step by step I've seen on this topic is by our old friend Seth Perlstein:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u6dWL-32jI

This clip concisely shows exactly what's needed.



2015/07/02 17:25:22
mudgel
Actually I've learned quite I bit that I've usually glossed over as I become more glassy eyes but now I understand.

Anyone up for writing up the definitive Kontakt in Sonar tutorial including Bib Hines tutorial from another thread and all the relevant info from this thread, then I'll place a brief note and link to my Utilities thread which is a sticky in the Software forum and start extending that thread to include tips and tutorials.

I'll plod away at it but could use the help. To me the process is one of having to follow the tutorial. That's OK for checking out the intelligibility and logical process of the instructions. But it would be better written by someone for whom the whole process is fluid and natural so to speak. Here's some references.

Http://forum.cakewalk.com/find post/3030422 the thread with bobs tutorial and other info scattered throughout.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u6dWL-32jI Video by Seth Perlstein formerly of Cakewalk inc.

PS if folks have other tutorials on Sonar related subjects get them to me. We have the power of a sticky thread in the Software forum that we can add info too. I'll keep that organised so even if you post in that thread or send me a PM.
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