There seems to be someone whispering in the back of the peanut gallery, but I can't hear them....

Spencer
That's not true. Ableton are making serious bank. Imageline, despite their free FLstudio upgrades, are also well off and make tons of r&d. Of course, we're talking about companies that are aware of what the current market wants. There's been some steps taken in the right direction lately for CW, but so much more needs to be done.

 You probably haven't a clue how much these companies make.  It is funny how FL users always come up with marketing ideas and the Imageline staff replies we are doing fine with out model.
 The only drawback with Sonar is they don't tap into the Mac market. They are probably doing fine. 
  I don't know what "so much more needs to be done" by your definition. The DAW market isn't decreasing so I'm sure every developer always thinks there's so much more that needs to be done.  Within the past few years with the DAWs on my machine I've never seen so many updates compared to 5 years ago.
 
  People often think it's a bad thing with Yamaha acquiring Steinberg, Gibson buying Cakewalk. If these companies didn't think they could trun a profit from it they would have never been purchased or they would have fired the staffs.
 

JonD
Last I checked, Askaudio.com was a third party site.
 
I suppose CW could have put a warning in the email to ignore any non-CW products that might appear on the same page.
 
Better yet, since the ads appear on the right-hand side of the screen, CW should perhaps have given the instruction to cover the right eye when looking at that page, thus increasing the odds that non-CW ads are blurred on the periphery.
 
Or, you can use a plugin like Ghostery to block the ads.  Simple.  

That's hilarious.  I prefer that stuff over ads on how to improve your "wee-wee".
 

sigh. this forum's reputation on other forums is entirely deserved, I'll leave it at that.

Doktor Avalanche

dantarbill
I followed the link from Cakewalk's recent e-mail for "How to use SONAR's Mix Recall"...
 
I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised...since the link is to a non-Cakewalk hosted site...but still...Cake provided the link...and the page also presented, not just one, but three ads inviting me to Cubase.
 
(You just can't get good help anymore...)
 
 

Actual URL and/or screenshot so we know far more specifically you are talking about?

Almost certainly targeted ads nevertheless. If you get porno adverts next time remember what you were up to in the early hours of the morning...

I would categorize my original post as more of an "observation" than an actual "question".  I'd postulate that the ads in this case are driven more by the general demographic of Askaudio.com rather than from my own search history.
 

mudgel
No one making money! No wonder the hover (flying) car never quite makes it to production.

http://www.japantimes.co....verboard/#.VZGqa_lViko

Spencer
sigh. this forum's reputation on other forums is entirely deserved, I'll leave it at that.

I take it that's a compliment?

charlyg

Spencer
That's not true. Ableton are making serious bank. Imageline, despite their free FLstudio upgrades, are also well off and make tons of r&d. Of course, we're talking about companies that are aware of what the current market wants. There's been some steps taken in the right direction lately for CW, but so much more needs to be done.

So much more? In whose opinion? What the current market wants? Mostly we(market) want choices. But to say we(users) want Sonar to be just like every one else(what the current market evidently wants) is not something they have ever tried to be. Frankly, there are more than a few of us who like the CW model just as it is. They focus on what we, the Sonar users want, and try to improve on delivery of those wants. I like to repay that loyalty, and not ding them at the end of the post.


And that's not even getting into the features we keep getting monthly.

If Sonar aren't fully tapping into anything, it's the explosion of EDM/bedroom producers. Look at the average age of people on the Sonar forums, it can't have escaped your attention that there is a predominance of over-40's (myself included) and a noticeable lack of EDM whippersnappers. You only have to look through the songs forum to get a general idea of Sonar's age and genre demographic. Not that there's anything wrong with this demographic, but I really feel like they're not doing everything they could to tap into the coming-of-age electronic crowd. Those kids are flocking to Abelton and Reason in droves. That may be to your liking, but I believe Cakewalk is going to have to do more to appeal to this crowd to stay afloat long term.

Sonar needs to be renamed to "DAW Coolzs Massive Ainnit' ... Job done yo.....

Doktor Avalanche
Sonar needs to be renamed to "DAW Coolzs Massive Ainnit' ... Job done yo.....

Khan I getz dat in supah syze?