Anderton

Kylotan 
I sometimes do the Cut Special and Paste routine; but since I can't split everything at measure boundaries, it usually ends up a mess.

 
Sorry, I thought this was in the context of EDM, where there's usually quantization so splitting on boundaries isn't an issue. As I mentioned, if you split within MIDI notes, it gets messy.
 

Have you ever tried Adobe Premiere?

 
Yes, I wrote two Adobe "Classroom in a Book" projects for Peachpit press. Premiere seemed more convoluted to me than Vegas, but that's probably because Vegas is based on a DAW's workflow so it makes sense to me. However the integration between Adobe and Premiere was very cool.

Um...the integration between Adobe and Premiere? Did you perhaps mean between Premiere and other Adobe products. I do agree Premiere can be a little convoluted compared to Vegas, but it fits video professional workflow better; particularly when collaborating.

Kylotan
 
Have you ever tried Adobe Premiere? For the first 10 minutes you think, "wow, this is weird", but once you understand how it makes decisions on whether to ripple-edit or not, it's so much simpler than any alternative I've seen. No work arounds, no grouping, just drag and drop.

 
Funnily enough I've been learning Premiere recently and on more than one occasion I thought man, I wish Sonar's timeline was more like this 

How did the topic get from 'why is Cakewalk advertising porno?' to this??

dubdisciple
 
Um...the integration between Adobe and Premiere? Did you perhaps mean between Premiere and other Adobe products.

Ooops, yes, I meant to say Audition. Hey, they both start with "a." 

Spencer
 
sigh. this forum's reputation on other forums is entirely deserved, I'll leave it at that.

Did you ever find stats for Image-Line (or Ableton sales that updated what I provided for 2012)? I'm curious about your sources.

dubdisciple, Sorry for the delay in responding, but if you are still reading this thread, I thought you made a very good point about age and loop-based music.  Thanks.
 
And I want to be sure I didn't give the wrong idea:  I think creating really good music in any style takes talent and work—I was just thinking of the younger guys I know who sort of play around making beats.  But what you said is really the right answer.

Konradh, you didn't say anything off putting. :)

Doktor Avalanche
How did the topic get from 'why is Cakewalk advertising porno?' to this??

because the original topic cleared up pretty quickly and topics typically evolve

Anderton - Yes it would be nice to see a work flow video!!!!!!!!
 

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