When I mix down all my tracks and export to a WAV file, I end up with a lot of dead space at the end of all the audio -- which I assume represents the measures showing up in the time ruler beyond where all my clips / envelopes end.  How do I remove all of this before creating the WAV file?

MorganT


When I mix down all my tracks and export to a WAV file, I end up with a lot of dead space at the end of all the audio -- which I assume represents the measures showing up in the time ruler beyond where all my clips / envelopes end.  How do I remove all of this before creating the WAV file?

If you use your mouse to highlight the bar numbers that run along the top of the sequencer you can choose the start and end points of the audio that will be exported. If you end the highlighting at the correct place it doesn't matter what follows on from that point in the sequencer as it isn't included. 
Make sure the reverbs and delays have finished (if used) as nothing sounds more cr@p than a track that ends prior to complete silence (well there are things that sound more cr@p but that doesn't matter right now).


Grum. 

I sometimes end up with dead space in the waves... generally only a few seconds and also at the beginning since I always start my songs on measure 3 beat 1. 

I export the audio as a wave and use an audio editor to trim the file to eliminate the silence. 

Use the time ruler to select the region you want to export. The way I do this normally is:
CTRL-A to select the entire project.
Now drag on the time ruler to select the area between the start and finish point of your project.
Export

Alternatively if you need to do this often for the same project a tip is to use project markers. Add markers delineating the start and the end of the project. Now when you are ready to export:
- press ctrl-A to select all data in the prokect
- open the markers view and click on the first marker, then shift click the second marker.  This will select all the data in your project between the two markers.
- Now export

i always trim my tracks once i've mixed down to a .wav file. i then import the stereo track back into sonar for mastering and it is then i trim the ends of my .wav. i find this way safer and easier then trying to trim 16 to 30 some tracks.
 
if you decide to trim while still editing the tracks becareful if you have clips because if you have all the tracks selected to trim the ends you might be adjusting all of your clips ends as well.
 
a simple way of doing it this way would be bounce to clips and that will combine all of your individual clips per track so that you'll have one clip on each track. then it would be safe to select all and adjust the ends.
 
good luck bro!

Thanks to all for answers!

No one seems to have mentioned why you have this "dead space".

It's likely that there is an event of some sorts way down in the time line.

Perhaps an envelope.

If you look in the MIDI event editor it will show up there. if nothing then its an audio event or an envelope.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
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Use the time ruler to select the region you want to export. The way I do this normally is:
CTRL-A to select the entire project.
Now drag on the time ruler to select the area between the start and finish point of your project.
Export

Alternatively if you need to do this often for the same project a tip is to use project markers. Add markers delineating the start and the end of the project. Now when you are ready to export:
- press ctrl-A to select all data in the prokect
- open the markers view and click on the first marker, then shift click the second marker.  This will select all the data in your project between the two markers.
- Now export

+1

I always use markers to set out my projects.

The come in very handy for all sorts of things, not least being time selection for export.
Try adding markers and use the markers view, I use them for navigating quickly around projects too.

They can save you a ton of time, and frustration.
I typically mark start, verses, chorus, breaks, and end of every project, and use the markers view to jump around.

Cheers - Cliff

To Mudgel -- I was wondering why there was extra space, good suggestions.

Cliffr - can you label the markers or just post markers?

Dumb question -- you label 'em when you create 'em.  Should have tried it before I asked!  THANKS!