This will probably get either deleted or removed, but it should'nt because it's actually a positive and helpful mention of certain things about BandLab <- The spell checker still shows the word BandLab caps or not as wrong, that should be fixed. 
 
Anyway.  I decided to post some of my songs on BandLab just to see what happened. I was surprised at the response. And when I say "RESPONSE" I don't mean getting a lot of listens or replies or nothing like that. What I mean is people who actually care about music responding in a civilized manner.  There were no "YOUR MIX NEEDS FIXING BS", or "YOU NEED TO FIX THE BASS BECAUSE MY SPEAKERS ARE NOT THAT GOOD AND I AM JEALOUS" type of CRAP that you experience with the cake forums in some instances. It was real people listening and replying to what they hear with your music. 
 
As for my experience with Sound Cloud. I would like to reply about that also. I contacted their support and they said "There is nothing we can do about it" and what happened to me was that I had a bunch of people with links to PORN sites follow me and I did not want that LINKED to my account on sound Cloud, Sound Cloud support said "There is nothing we can do about that", so that is why I don't use Sound Cloud anymore at all and never will again. As for Bandlab, I see they have a blocking feature. I like that for the reasons I mentioned above here. 
 
As for BandLab, while I like the negative feedback on songs and can handle the critics. The thing I like about it is that when you post your songs on their you have real people you don't know giving feedback. Unlike a FORUM like the Cake songs forum where their possibly might be mixed feelings on how they feel about your sound and such things.
 
The thing I DO NOT LIKE ABOUT BANDLAB. AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THIS ::::::::::::
 
When you add or upload a finished song to the site, you are presented with an option called "FORK", as of my last few uploads of my songs it appears to be turned OFF BY default. But what "FORK" means is AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD. That's a big deal. 
 
Either way, my experience thus far adding my songs to Bandlab has been great. 10000x's better than SoundCloud no doubt. 
 
Why is this related to Sonar? Because I when you finish your music with Sonar, or Cakewalk By BandLab, this is the result. 
 
In my case, I am still using Sonar Platinum last version because I don't want two versions of the same daw on my PC.
 
I don't have the need after seeing the latest comparison chart posted by Meng. "Thank you Meng BTW". When there is a reason for me to "UPGRADE" if there is ever an upgrade, so to speak using Bandlab assistant and Cakewalk by Bandlab then I will. 
 
My review?  Bandlab is the real deal when it comes to sharing your songs to be heard, but I would suggest they REALLY need to change that "FORK" option to "CAN BE DOWNLOADED FREELY BY OTHERS".  No need to be free speak and create a new language trying to be HIP, just be honest if you can really deliver the service. So far they can do so. It appears that by default if you share a song the "FORK" option or "Allow for download is turned off. That's a good thing I guess. 
 
Bobby
 
My Bandlab Page : https://www.bandlab.com/user924a9571
 
 

I think the idea behind BandLab is for collaboration not just uploading your music for others to listen to.

The reason the term fork is used (I’m guessing now), is that other platforms like Github also use this term and it’s an indication that the original file is now been divided into another branch that will be developed differently, hence literally a fork in development. It also provides a point you can go back to.

I never saw all this hostility you are talking about on the CW Song forum. Criticism, yes but isn't that the idea? from the music I have listened to on Bandlab isn't very good imho. Like beginner type loop stuff.
 
On CW Song forum you will get MORE critics because the bar is higher, as in lots of really good musicians, engineers, etc. Comparatively speaking of course. 
 
Bandlab you get zillions of "everything". Not saying it is all bad but the number of very amateurish songs is really high.
BUT, there is also NOTHING wrong with that. We all started somewhere.........Thats what the world of music is all about!
 
 

Serious_Noize!
[...] 
The thing I DO NOT LIKE ABOUT BANDLAB. AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THIS ::::::::::::
 
When you add or upload a finished song to the site, you are presented with an option called "FORK", as of my last few uploads of my songs it appears to be turned OFF BY default. But what "FORK" means is AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD. That's a big deal. 
[...]
In my case, I am still using Sonar Platinum last version because I don't want two version of the same daw on my PC. I don't have the need after seeing the latest comparison chart posted by Meng. When there is a reason for me to "UPGRADE" so to speak using Bandlab assistant then I will. 
 
My review?  Bandlab is the real deal when it comes to sharing your songs to be heard, but I would suggest they REALLY need to change that "FORK" option to "CAN BE DOWNLOADED FREELY BY OTHERS".  No need to be free speak and create a new language trying to be HIP, just be honest if you can really deliver the service. 

It's my understanding that if you make your project FORKable, you also open it up to free use and interpretation to other users. I think it is good that this option is off by default, so that you have a chance of actively sharing your project in such a manner if you want to. 
 
About the two DAW's, as mentioned else where plenty of times, you will need to have both installed at the same time if you want to use the features exclusive to Platinum in CbB. There is no point in waiting around with upgrading to CbB. I would have a look at the comparison chart posted by Meng, it will make things a bit clearer.
- Sven

stratman70
I never saw all this hostility you are talking about on the CW Song forum. Criticism, yes but isn't that the idea? from the music I have listened to on Bandlab isn't very good imho. Like beginner type loop stuff.
 
On CW Song forum you will get MORE critics because the bar is higher, as in lots of really good musicians, engineers, etc. Comparatively speaking of course. 
 
Bandlab you get zillions of "everything". Not saying it is all bad but the number of very amateurish songs is really high.
BUT, there is also NOTHING wrong with that. We all started somewhere.........Thats what the world of music is all about!
 

I don't share your impression from listening to music on BandLab, there are many pearls to be found. And I enjoy putting out material as well as listening to others work.
Only issue I'm having with it, is that its a bit difficult to zone in on the type of songs that are of interest ... mainly due to an almost spam like classification style of some artist. I really don't understand what some people hope to gain by putting a obvious Rap song in the Blues Section FI. 

iRelevant
I really don't understand what some people hope to gain by putting a obvious Rap song in the Blues Section FI. 

Yes, I noticed that, too. It seems that Bandlab users have no idea what style they are working in. I've mentioned this here before. I had a hard time finding any musicians I might be able to collaborate with, or even any music I wanted to hear. It may be this poor organization that makes the site appear to be full of subpar musicians. They're just not not where you expect them to be. Very democratic, though, letting everybody decide what the word "genre" means. 
 

I like BandLab. I have come across some really good stuff. Got hooked up with some people I am working with. 
 
I was excited at the new 'social' site that BL was offering. I looked around and learned how to use it and decided I would try a song out. I put a song up and got some great people to help out. I also happen to get a guy that can sing and wants to work with me and some others. In fact, the last few weeks has been all about me doing music that revolved around BandLab!! Who would have thought that two weeks ago?!! Not me for sure.

mudgel
I think the idea behind BandLab is for collaboration not just uploading your music for others to listen to.

The reason the term fork is used (I’m guessing now), is that other platforms like Github also use this term and it’s an indication that the original file is now been divided into another branch that will be developed differently, hence literally a fork in development. It also provides a point you can go back to.

While I get what you are saying, think about it for a second, the important part being : "Your music for others to listen to". 
 
Thank you for the input on the term Fork. Your probably right about that. I'm old and not in the know and jargon stuff now days. It would be nice if rather than using Jargon or specific terms per their own inside train of thought that they just say what the option is. Or in other words, I don't want to learn a new language to have to use a service or site or anything. Imagine if your bank decided to do such things, or the post office or everywhere you went decided to do such things. It's just not a good idea in my opinion. But thank you for explaining why. 
 

stratman70
I never saw all this hostility you are talking about on the CW Song forum. Criticism, yes but isn't that the idea? from the music I have listened to on Bandlab isn't very good imho. Like beginner type loop stuff.
 
On CW Song forum you will get MORE critics because the bar is higher, as in lots of really good musicians, engineers, etc. Comparatively speaking of course. 
 
Bandlab you get zillions of "everything". Not saying it is all bad but the number of very amateurish songs is really high.
BUT, there is also NOTHING wrong with that. We all started somewhere.........Thats what the world of music is all about!
 
 

I get that you never did, and you have this idea that because you only saw Criticism and took things that way.
I'm happy for you having that experience and I mean that in a kind way. 
 
But I will say, there are friends of mine, who got flamed and picked on and bullied at times to the point they stopped using the forums altogether. What you need to realize and look : The problem with the songs forum is when you mention anything toward someones song as a critic and that person gets upset, the next time you post or share a song you automatically open an avenue for that person who did not like your revue to take aim and flame at you regardless of whether they listen to your music or not. 
 
My point about that subject is not about somebody saying it needs more treble or bass or louder vocals or off tune or just isn't that good. My point is, I have seen episodes where people regardless of who they are and there music get completely flamed and thrown off on by a certain CLICK group.  You may not have seen it. Lucky for you, but I have and I know a couple of people who experienced that issue. 
 
That's in the past, but that is what I was referring to.
 
As for my experience thus far with BandLab, people just listen to the music and they have said : "Hey you need this or that", no PERSONAL ATTACKS is what I am getting at because you respond by saying : "I don't agree". 
 
Either way the Cakewalk songs forums from what I gather, or at least as I was told by someone in the know were ran for the most part by some users. So somebody not liking someones opinion who was really not nice telling them to go potty train tells me a lot as to how the cakewalk songs forums have worked in the last few years. 
 
BandLab is really cool! I like it. Best thing that could have ever happened to Cakewalk in my opinion. 
 

The thing with "forking" and making songs available to download, isn't that kind of a non issue? Once something is put online, downloadable or streaming, it is a small thing to save that material on a computer anyway. If someone really wants to I mean. Lots of software around to record anything streaming, you just play the song and record it and voila, its downloaded.  Also, once put online, people can listen and "steal" it just by hearing it, as been done since the birth of the radio. 
 
Best thing is to take comfort in the fact that 99.99999% of songs realeased will not suffer because they will not become anything popular anyway and you wont lose anything in the process. That is kind of the only approach to take imo. The more people it reaches, through streaming, downloading, stealing or whatever the better. IF you want to put music online that is.