Is there a resource I can find that details how the organization of the Project audio folder organized clips and names them versus in the track view.
 
I just did some test and I see that when I arm a track to record a number of entries appear in the Project Audio Folder in the Browser in the following format "ProjectName, Rec (#)" 
 
Once the track is recorded "ProjectName, TrackName, Rec (#)"
 
The problem is the rec (#) skips and does not follow sequentially.
The other problem is that The clips in the track have clip names that make sense "Record #" ascending sequentially but of course those names dont match with the files in the audio folder.
 
If I somehow undo a recording that I wanted to keep, of when I insert a plugin that crashes Sonar (Thank you NI Replika) the files are still in the project Audio Folder but finding it is more difficult than it needs to be because of the naming system.
 
Is there an option or something I missed when it comes to how those filed are saved to disk?
 
 
 
 
 

I demonstrate what I'm talking about in this video
 
https://youtu.be/88_4D-xC6UM

Hi there Enigmatic 
 
I can't find anything in the documentation which provides enlightenment.
 
If it was me, and I wanted to recover an audio file immediately after a crash, I would use windows explorer and sort the audio folder by time. That would at least give me the latest files created.
 
Also, FWIW, I prefer to save my audio files on a "per project" basis, rather than use the global audio folder. I find it easier to work that way.
 
cheers
 
andy

I do use the per project folders every time. I record a bunch of vocalists who often cant make it though a full take, so there are lots of starts and stops and many audio files generated in the project folder. finding the right one in there if I need to has just always been a pain

If I need to find specific files due to a crash or whatever (and I just learned about this stuff relatively recently) I just fiddle with the Windows Explorer filters to find what I need (thanks scook/bapu/general forum doods). Usually the Date or Name filters are the best ones to nail down exactly what I'm looking for. eg: If I know I've only been recording into a specific track and want to get at what I've been doing that day I sort by Date and just peruse the most recent events. The waves can be auditioned in any media player (and Sonar has an internal auditioning thingie for this but I don't think the sorting options are as elaborate). If I know the takes exist within a specific track I can sort by Name and then scroll down to all that track's files which, due to the clip/take numbering scheme should show up in sequence (unless you have done more than ten takes... in which case I think you would end up with Take 1 being on top of take 10,11, 12, etc... but I'm not sure). Just takes a little use of the ole thinking bone and using the sort features but it ain't that hard to nail down specific stuff.
 
You probably already knew that and maybe you are implying that Sonar is totally misnaming your files (in which case that's a problem that should be reported to Cakewalk) but since computators like naming and sorting things sequential and have a ton of different ways of doing so it should be too hard to find what's what.

Oh and for those little snippets of half takes/bork outs you could also just look a the SIZE of the wave files. If you are looking for a full take the file size of the wave is going to be longer than the size of a half take.
 
It is also good practice to hit Ctrl + Z if you know someone screwed/you simply will not be using the take as you record. It prevents your audio folder from getting jammed up with useless crap and wasting disk space. I am constantly whacking at the Ctrl/Z keys as I track.
 
Cheers.
 

Control z or undo only removes the file from the project not the audio folder. I posted a link to a youtube video I made that shows exactlly what im talking about. Im pretty great with computers... ive built two studio computers... I just want to not have to waste time searching for files my DAW is not organizing properly.

Enigmatic
I demonstrate what I'm talking about in this video
 
https://youtu.be/88_4D-xC6UM

Ctrl + Z certainly does remove those from the audio folder. I think you need to save the project (or maybe save and close or Save As) to truly clear them from the audio folder but I save regularly (and manually) as I work. If Ctrl + Z did NOT remove those files from the audio folder I would have burned through a dozen HDDs by now.
 
As far as organizing I'll try to check out your vid later but I've pretty much already detailed how I go about finding files and I'm working on my own stuff right now so I gotta keep my focus on that (just taking a quick brain break).
 
And if a specific plug is causing crashes while tracking then you should disable/remove that plug until you are finished recording and only reintroduce when it comes time to mix. If the plug is needed to help the performer record then try to find a suitable, lightweight, Sonar compatible plugin to use during tracking. If the offending plugin is on a track the is NOT being currently recorded into then simply Freeze the track and it will temporarily bounce the track and remove the plugin from the project which should solve any issues.
 
Seriously I would be far more concerened about the plug related crashes. I have only ever had to recover waves in the manner you are describing a couple times and it was because I was doing something really... well not recommended usage. Solve the crashes and you won't have to worry about this as much. Use Ctrl + Z and Save/Save As/Save Copy As often and you won't have to sift through mountains of bad takes.
 
Just saying... cheers.

the plugin crashes are inconsequential, I'll own up to human editing errors and quick clicking, and the following specific action that made me look more closely at the audio folder files:
 
I record a track... the artist says delete that lets do it over, I undo and hit record... they mess up and want to hear the one before... undo/redo does not recover that original undone take after another has been recorded... but that file will still exist in the audio folder.
 
speaking of such you may have different setting than I do because here is a video that shows that Ctrl + Z certainly does not remove the audio from the folder... just saying... here is another video that shows just that
 
https://youtu.be/ZQB2YZPsEhg
 
anyway I'm just going to contact tech support... because I'm sure this naming system quirk is some sort of a bug that the experts need to know about.