• SONAR
  • [Solved] "Freeze Synth" bouncing audio even if empty tracks! (p.2)
2015/06/23 15:04:26
rogeriodec
scook
 
Keep in mind, you told SONAR where the synth output should go. You decided not to use the tracks. Then you told SONAR to freeze the synth. Now you want SONAR to remove empty waves after you instructed it to generate them. I suppose there could be another freeze option but it definitely would be a feature request. SONAR would have no idea in advance of freezing if there would be audio generated or if the empty tracks were created intentionally so the delete would happen after the freeze.



I work with project templates, which have a series of tracks that are standard and possibly will be used in the new project.
But I do not want the Synth (Kontakt) load all the instruments, consuming a large portion of RAM, while I'm in the middle of project development and while I do not need these tracks.
Therefore, the best option is to freeze the synth until it is needed to use it.
Remove the tracks or change your references is not a good option.
Having a giant Wav file and completely blank (dua Sonar limitation) is also not a good option.
In my opinion, it is not at all difficult Sonar interpret if a track does not contain data and does not generate a "dumb" file.
2015/06/23 15:06:16
dcumpian
Instead of deleting them, can't they be archived to prevent this?
 
Regards,
Dan
 
2015/06/23 15:15:00
scook
rogeriodec
 
In my opinion, it is not at all difficult Sonar interpret if a track does not contain data and does not generate a "dumb" file.


SONAR has no idea what the synth is going to output in advance or that the output is not something the user wants. MIDI data is going into some plug-in which SONAR hosts. SONAR does not know what the plug-in does with the data. You have instructed SONAR to catch the results into the tracks you have created. SONAR could only removed the empty waves after they were created and that would be a new feature request. The bottom line is SONAR is doing as it has been told. This may be a case where track templates may be more efficient than a large project template.
2015/06/23 15:22:06
rogeriodec
dcumpian
Instead of deleting them, can't they be archived to prevent this?
 

 
"Archive" does not freeze synth and thus does not release RAM (which in my case are at least 4 Gb of RAM when Kontakt is active).
2015/06/23 15:26:25
rogeriodec
scook
SONAR has no idea what the synth is going to output in advance or that the output is not something the user wants. MIDI data is going into some plug-in which SONAR hosts. SONAR does not know what the plug-in does with the data. You have instructed SONAR to catch the results into the tracks you have created. SONAR could only removed the empty waves after they were created and that would be a new feature request. The bottom line is SONAR is doing as it has been told. This may be a case where track templates may be more efficient than a large project template.



I just want to free up RAM without losing all track settings and instruments within the Kontakt, also without occupying unnecessary disk space.
2015/06/23 15:36:25
Keni
Why not simply save the synth as a track template...

Then remove it from the project, do your other work and load the track template when you actually get around to using the synth...?
2015/06/23 16:47:00
rogeriodec
Keni
Why not simply save the synth as a track template...

Then remove it from the project, do your other work and load the track template when you actually get around to using the synth...?



So far I had not explored the potential of Track Template, but I now see that this is the most practical, flexible and elegant solution.
I grouped all tracks that were related to the synth in a track folder and I saved this folder as a template. Sonar has done the job well: saved all tracks made reference to the synth as well as the entire contents of synth (instruments within the Kontakt).
Now for all projects that use these same tools, I simply insert the track template and everything comes automatically.
Thank you very much Keni!
2015/06/23 16:53:58
SimpleManZ
Curious, I tried to duplicate the issue here.
I start a new project with the Normal Template.
Load a soft synth; Record nothing; Freeze track does nothing.
Open PRV and put in a 1 bar note; Sonar Freeze the track as expected.
2015/06/23 19:54:18
Keni
Glad I could help...
2015/06/23 20:21:33
tenfoot
Just go to the synth properties drop down menu and de-select 'synth connected'. This will allow you to leave your template as it is and still free up the ram. It will also solve your wave export problem. When you wish to use the synth again  just reconnect it. If you save this setting in your project template your synth and midi tracks will be created and wating but will not be using any ram until you need them.
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