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  • Trying to figure out the difference in console emulations in S Plat (p.3)
2015/06/22 02:13:32
Orphaned at Birth
charlyg
 
I'm just gettin started!


 
Pretty poor start then . . .
"Beach Boy's, Mountain" . . . , lol . . . Now I know you're joking . . . 
2015/06/22 04:22:13
jerrydf
Larry Jones
charlyg
Noob question. So how come the  emulations are all Brit? Did 'Merica fall sleep at the wheel?

 
The British version of Sonar features all U.S.-made console emulations: Peavey, Carvin and Mackie. A lot of Brit engineers are using grey market U.S. versions, however.


Not anymore. Current legislation is that Sonar in Europe can only support EU equivalents.
 
jdf
2015/06/22 04:46:53
ChristopherM
Kamikaze
UK is 240 too, 220V is the continent.
 

Actually, Europe (incl. UK) is harmonised on a standard of 230V +10% -6%. This was "cleverly" contrived to embrace the former European 220V and the former UK 240V. In other words, nothing really changed, so UK equipment may run a little cooler on mainland Europe and vice versa. Sorry to split hairs, but when someone wants 199USD for a painstakingly engineered virtual replica of the vintage power transformer that was used on all of the hits that came out of BS Studios, I'll be wanting assurance that this heating effect has been correctly modelled, depending upon whether BS Studios was in Cricklewood or Berlin.
2015/06/22 04:50:46
ChristopherM
tlw
The household voltage we get tends to be around 235-242V, which is pretty much what it was when we moved here 30 years ago.

(this post provided by TriviaRus).

 Sorry for duplicating your Tech-No-Trivia. FWIW, here in the English countryside our voltage moves sharply between 230V and 0V depending upon how recently a tree was blown through the overhead lines.
2015/06/22 11:26:13
charlyg
Orphaned at Birth
charlyg
 
I'm just gettin started!


 
Pretty poor start then . . .
"Beach Boy's, Mountain" . . . , lol . . . Now I know you're joking . . . 




Tell that to the Beatles. Ever hear of an album called "Pet Sounds"?
 
from Wiki
 
Pet Sounds is the eleventh studio album by the American rock band the Beach Boys. Released on May 16, 1966, it initially met a lukewarm critical and commercial reception in the United States, but received immediate success abroad, where British publications declared it "the most progressive pop album ever". It charted at number two in the UK but number ten in the US, a significantly lower placement than the band's preceding albums.[1] In later years, the album garnered enormous worldwide acclaim by critics and musicians alike, and is regarded as one of the most influential pieces in the history of popular music.
2015/06/22 12:26:31
Keni
The Beach Boys...

For a number of years they recorded in their own studio which had a console built by a company called Clover... I know as I owned one of very few other boards made by them... Mine was much smaller and owned by the band Bread...

Wonderful sounding console, but not as warm and beefy as a Neve...
2015/06/22 16:54:33
subtlearts
Larry Jones
charlyg
Noob question. So how come the  emulations are all Brit? Did 'Merica fall sleep at the wheel?

 
The British version of Sonar features all U.S.-made console emulations: Peavey, Carvin and Mackie. A lot of Brit engineers are using grey market U.S. versions, however.




I see what you did there...
2015/06/22 18:47:54
jerrydf
Ah - Beach Boys and Brian Wilson - my hero. It's incredible that Pet Sounds was recorded in four-track (I think the Beatles' Pepper was eight track?)
 
Keni - Was it the Clover equipment they had built in California, and then shipped piece-by-piece to Holland (Steve Desper being the engineer, I believe)?
 
 
2015/06/22 19:20:58
tlw
Sgt Pepper, believe it or not, was recorded on Abbey Road's Studer J37 4-track recorders.

A couple of years later, in time for the White Album, it seems Abbey Rd had acquired some 8-track recorders. The story's a bit confused, but either the EMI technical dept., whose word was law, had witheld consent for anyone to use the 8-track until some modifications had been made. That, or George Martin, unknown to the band, had been offered one for the Beatle's use but after discussing it with the studio turned it down on the grounds he thought the band wouldn't be happy with it.

The Beatles pounced on one anyway while Martin was away and tried using it despite the technical dept. ruling they were not to be used in the studios yet.

It seems that one of the modifications EMI had identified the new recorder as needing was to add a separate sync amp, without which the Artifical Double Tracking ("flanging") that was characteristic of the later Beatle's work wasn't possible.

So The White Album was done in the end using a mix of 4 and 8 track desks, tracking through an EMI REDD console with a grand total of 8 inputs and 4 output busses.

And we think DAWs can be hard work....
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