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  • Sonar vs Pro Tools? (p.6)
2015/03/06 12:09:21
Splat
GregGraves
* please send $1500 cash to my Swiss account #4PLEASE3RIP7ME9OFF5CUZ9IAMDUMB and I will get my DAW out to you "real soon".



I have an HSBC account so this should be easy...
2015/03/06 13:04:58
FidelityMusic
Just my opinion regarding advertising and marketing since its been brought up, if Cakewalk wanted Sonar to be more successful they're going to want to push their DAW to artists and producers of popular genres, and also create more video content. Instead of blog posts, work on videos. There's a reason why people turn to Groove3, Askvideo, Lynda, Udemy, and Youtube so frequently, they want video content.
 
Get some artists and producers to start making Youtube content for Sonar. The content available online for DAW's like Ableton and FL Studio and their use in popular genres is one of the reasons why they're so widely used. Not only does this bring free marketing for Sonar, it gives people ideas on workflow that they might potentially like, they also get to see the DAW used in a wide variety of practical situations. All you need is a little incentive to get people creating and keep them creating. Maybe keep in contact with them and ask their suggestions, give them free products to review, and you could think of a million things. It wouldn't cost Cakewalk a dime.
2015/03/06 16:22:57
fitzj
Having both ProTools and Sonar running on my PC.
I feel Sonar is miles ahead of Protools in every way.
2015/03/06 16:28:44
OldTimerNewComer
...Apparently dead horses live forever... lol
2015/03/06 16:39:35
Anderton
FidelityMusic
Get some artists and producers to start making Youtube content for Sonar. The content available online for DAW's like Ableton and FL Studio and their use in popular genres is one of the reasons why they're so widely used. Not only does this bring free marketing for Sonar, it gives people ideas on workflow that they might potentially like, they also get to see the DAW used in a wide variety of practical situations.



I agree, excellent suggestion. 
2015/03/06 16:58:00
dubdisciple
I have been saying what Fidelity Music posted for years.  The music industry is full of followers. Although I think it's stupid, people tend to want to "be like Mike" and think the shoes will get them closer.Youtube is full of videos showing walkthroughs of mix sessions of top artists of all genres on pro tools, Logic and Cubase. The videos available for Sonar are good, but they all come across as the theoretical displays that are great for demoing but for many don't translate well to contemporary trends.  Our wonderful troll was being just that but within his idiocy was some food for thought. It is easy (and true) to claim Sonar can make contemporary EDM, but one key difference is Youtube is loaded with videos from other DAWS demonstrating songs currently charting. 
2015/03/06 17:21:09
mixmkr
FidelityMusic
 
Get some artists and producers to start making Youtube content for Sonar............


I've done this in my measly own way.   My Youtube channel is still pretty new small-ish (as of now about 375 subscribers and 70K+ overall views), but I did a slew of Platinum videos the week it came out.  I did two videos on "making simple song ideas" in SPlat and they instantly became big hits on my channel with about 4K hits combined, just for those two, new videos.   So people are looking.  My YouTube stats say that about 1/3rd of the views on those videos come from "searching" YouTube, which seemed like a lot to me.
2015/03/06 17:38:22
tbosco
I have 10 videos on YouTube and a few more clips on Soundcloud.  I always describe that my tunes were recorded, mixed, engineered, produced, and mastered in SONAR in each video...and I try to tag them such that they will get some traffic...primarily to "advertise" Sonar.  But I don't seem to get that traffic...and only have 19 subscribers.
 
And it's a fact that as I browse musical instrument/recording equipment suppliers' catalogs and websites, I seldom see "Sonar" listed in their list of "Supported DAWS", even though Sonar IS supported.  It sometimes makes me feel like I am using a substandard product...but I know I'm not.
 
+1 on FM's suggestion.
2015/03/06 19:11:19
tlw
AndertonWindows is perceived by the "Gearslutz mentality" as not a serious solution.
 


Ah, Gearslutz. A site where sorting out the gems from the misinformation, mistaken information, plain wrong information, fifth hand opinions and follow-my-leader fanboism is a task even the angels would dread.

AndertonThe music industry is slow and conservative.


True, but there's also the factor of having invested in and learned one huge, expensive complex application the tendency is going to be to stick with it.

Partly because going to the bean-counters and telling them that the expensive package they've been spending biggish money on for years because it's "the best" needs to be replaced by a pretty ordinary PC and new software.

And partly because of the time investment needed to learn a new system and tweak it as required.

People generally don't like having to learn new software, because they don't find it easy and they don't necessarily have much interest in that side of things to start with. Not everyone has the ability to easily transfer skills learned on one thing to another either. Daft as it may sound, there are people, many people, who don't seem to pick up clues from icons and apply the clues from one application in another, but seem to have to learn every application from scratch as a separate learning process.

All of which means the studios can be slow to change, and in turn whatever they use gets seen by the home/small scale market as the "best and the industry standard" simply because it's what the studios use.

Simple human inertia makes toppling a market leader very difficult.
2015/03/07 10:05:03
Jrehanek
I haven't "upgraded" Since X1 Producer.  It took a couple of years for the X1 bitterness to wear off, but I'm fixing to buy Platinum $199 for my birthday, in lieu of a tie.
 
In the intervening years, I used PT some.  Worked fine with my equipment, sounded great. To make an apples to apples comparison though, the buy in for a similarly equipped program in PT is very high.  Astronomical.  If Platinum works for you, you're saving tons of money.
 
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