Thanks DRanck, Yeah, I don't either, and I hate to go through 224 measures of eliminating nodes. Maybe I'm thinking wrong, but theoretically, if I delete the automation lane, ie open it, select the lane, hit delete and it disappears, it should be gone. I reopen the console, hit play, grab the fader (on the track of which I just deleted the automation lane) pull it down a bit and let go, just release the 'left click' , and it pops back to where it was. Not a double click that would 'zero' the fader, just a release. ....and that darn squiggly line above and below the fader is still there. I really don't want to globally remove all automation from all tracks, but even that doesn't eliminate ALL automation written. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong...(which is usually the case)