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2015/05/26 18:28:56
Anderton
Wow Bill...this does more than I realized. Thanks for posting!!
2015/05/26 22:39:12
donbelisle
I was like MarioD at 1st. I really didn`t see a use for the tool.
But since I like to fingerpick on my guitar, that trick can be used to layer
abstract prcussion over instrumental work.
That`s a great idea, now i`m liking the next update even more. 
Thanks Bill - -
2015/05/26 23:22:58
Kamikaze
Time to practice beat boxing.
2015/05/27 05:51:36
subtlearts
Getting more excited about this by the minute. Let the tweakness begin!
2015/05/27 06:52:55
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
donbelisle
I was like MarioD at 1st. I really didn`t see a use for the tool.
But since I like to fingerpick on my guitar, that trick can be used to layer
abstract prcussion over instrumental work.
That`s a great idea, now i`m liking the next update even more. 
Thanks Bill - -



It appears to work nicely with any guitar sound that is percussive and has a well defined attack - nylon string guitar or acoustic triggers it better than electric. I was going to try and sample a pick sound and use it to add more definition to guitar parts. It also works ok with rhythmic acoustic guitar strumming.
2015/05/27 09:36:42
John T
Here's another great trick, that I've seen done with Slate Trigger, and it looks like would be very easy with this.
 
So, you've got a friend who's a great drummer, but you've not got the gear or the space to record them, and the neighbours will go crazy if you set up a kit in your house.
 
No problem. Get your drummer to come round with a pair of sticks, and make them a "kit" out of boxes and chairs and stuff. Record that with two or three mics for seperation of elements, and then do drum replacement on it.
 
Obviously never going to sound like Neal Peart playing a Ludwig at Abbey Road, but you can get amazing results.
2015/05/27 11:33:18
pentimentosound
Thanks Bill! That ought to get a lot of imagining started! LOL
 
Thanks Noel! That info adds to the flame! LOL Very cool! I can't wait to mess with it.
and
John T - I hadn't even thought of what all could be "replaced", but that really opens the door, there!
Michael
2015/05/27 13:26:11
mettelus
You can audio to midi convert now doing freaky tricks like tapping fingers on a table. With DR, now it will be able to tell your thumb from your pinky :)
2015/05/27 15:32:43
Beepster
mettelus
You can audio to midi convert now doing freaky tricks like tapping fingers on a table. With DR, now it will be able to tell your thumb from your pinky :)



This was kind of one of the places my mind was going... but this has always been "technically" possible already. However it may be easier.
 
I have always nervously and obnoxiously tapped out beats since I was kid (used to drive my family nuts). I played drums for a while too so I got to really translate all that freaky stuff into proper musical rhythm (albeit somewhat awkwardly). These days I do very well tapping out cool live stuff on my padKontrol (the drums on Beeps Creep was performed totally live with no major MIDI editing on the pK and I had just bought the bugger).
 
The problem is the damned kick. I have to trigger the kick using an "on/off" style "expression" pedal attachment to the pK. It does NOT respond like a kick pedal at all. It double triggers, it drops beats, it's weird as hell to play and it does not allow for double kicking.
 
With this I MAY be able to just put a mic pointed at my gimpy old feet and record the sound of them slapping on the ground and play the upper body parts on the pK. Then just convert the slappy happy footsie recording to whatever kick I want.
 
Again that was probably already possible but this may make it easier and more precise than the older methods.
2015/05/27 19:06:30
mettelus
DR is right around the corner (significantly more capable, I am sure), but with X3 and above you can tap a physical surface with say a dynamic mic lying on a towel nearby, then drag/drop that audio clip into a MIDI track. This will yield no pitch bend data (irrelevant for percussion), and will most likely get only one note (unless make a "tonal kit" as John T mentioned); but for a humanized MIDI track to feed a VSTi (especially for just the kick), this does work. You will need need to slide the MIDI data to the correct note on the drum map being used to fire the VSTi correctly.
 
Definitely something to try (especially when DR is here) to alleviate the pedal woes.
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