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2015/02/04 05:42:35
Kamikaze
Not sure The Rocket can be considered the start of Dance Music, it's more noteworthy for Herbie giving credibility to scratching as a musical instrument.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
2015/02/04 05:51:36
Bflat5
My only complaint with AD2 is the midi problem. By problem I mean it will not read any midi file I have properly. EZDrummer has no problem with them, but AD1 and 2 both will not play them. Anyone know how to fix that?
 
I think for the upgrade price though with all that you get with AD2 it's a pretty sweet deal.
2015/02/04 14:14:30
Mesh
Bflat5
My only complaint with AD2 is the midi problem. By problem I mean it will not read any midi file I have properly. EZDrummer has no problem with them, but AD1 and 2 both will not play them. Anyone know how to fix that?
 
I think for the upgrade price though with all that you get with AD2 it's a pretty sweet deal.


I can't remember the actual file path, but I have all my EZDrummer midi files working well within AD2. The only downside is that you have to manually re-name the EZDrummer files. If no one offers you the correct file path, I'll re-post once I get to my DAW tonight.   
 
 
EDIT UPDATE......
The file path is:  Documents > Addictive Drums 2 > External Midi Files
 
 
2015/02/04 14:35:22
Spencer
Drone7
He may be the "god" of dance music (in your mind), but is he the 'Father' of dance music? Nup! That title goes to Herbie Hancock (in my mind). "Rockit" started everything.
 
You say no one comes close to BT (whoever that is) for Mastery of beats you say, Nup! That title goes to Shrillex (IMO of course).

Who is Shrillex? You mean Skrillex? The guy who uses the Stepsonics massive preset bank? I mean, it's a good soundset, but... just no. You should look into the master synthesist BT. "whoever that is". lol, man, this forum. Never said he was the "father" of dance music by the way. He did play a large part in pioneering modern trance however, but that's not the only type of music he makes. As for rockit, there was a ton of techno and italo disco made before that, among other things. It hardly "started everything".
 
Oh but since I have you here. I have looked for some musical hardhouse (you mean uk house right? the 150bpm stuff?) before without success. Can you suggest some?
2015/02/04 16:09:23
Anderton
Neither BT, Herbie Hancock, or Skrillex are included in the next membership update. You have my word on that.
2015/02/04 18:47:50
Drone7
Spencer
As for rockit, there was a ton of techno and italo disco made before that, among other things. It hardly "started everything".
 

 
Not sure how you include "italo disco" as dance music in the sense of EDM, but anyway. And if you can point me to anything that remotely sounds like "modern Techno" pre (Rockit 1983), go ahead. Mantronix followed not long after with the "Rockit" sound.
 
As far as i'm concerned "Hardhouse" was the original Techno as we know it today... early 90's, then all the spin-offs took their cue from that, Trance, Jungle, Happy Hardcore, Dubstep etc, and now the slew of 'me too' 'sub-genres' that we have these days which i deem as more 'experimental', i don't see them as legit "genres". Hardhouse was the original "four to the floor" Genre, and the fact that it still very much thrives today is a big testament to being the grand-daddy foundation of EDM.
 
I don't follow any particular producers when it comes to Hardhouse, too many out there, i simply follow the scent and feed off the palette. Looking for whichever track nails it. The only time i've heard Hardhouse reach 150bpm was when the DJ was high or drunk and abusing his BPM slider on the Record Player. Happy Hardcore might regularly reach 150bpm though. I find most Hardhouse sits around a sensible 140-144bpm mostly.
 
2015/02/04 19:02:14
dubdisciple
I'm sorry, but i am falling over laughing at the idea of herbie hancock being a dance music pioneer.  I'm a huge Herbie hancock fan, but for what the did do and not imaginary achievements. herbie was a young jazz pianist playing with legends at an early age and later became a pioneer in fusion.  Rocket as a dance music pioneer type song is a stretch since it relied so heavily on all the electro pop stuff already popular.  Songs like Rocket were already popular in urban areas, as well as scratching.  Dance music as we know it owes a much greater debt to Disco and even artists like Kraftwerk than Hancock.
2015/02/04 19:10:19
dubdisciple
Drone7
Spencer
As for rockit, there was a ton of techno and italo disco made before that, among other things. It hardly "started everything".
 

 
Not sure how you include "italo disco" as dance music in the sense of the EDM genre, but anyway. And if you can point me to anything that remotely sounds like "modern Techno" pre (Rockit 1983), go ahead.
 
I don't follow any particular producers when it comes to Hardhouse, too many out there, i simply follow the scent and feed off the palette. Looking for whichever track nails it. The only time i've heard Hardhouse reach 150bpm was when the DJ was high or drunk and abusing his BPM slider on the Record Player. Happy Hardcore might regularly reach 150bpm though. I find most Hardhouse sits around a sensible 140-144bpm mostly.
 


Juan Atkins, Derrick Mays and Kevin Saunderson (and anybody into the Detroit dance music scene in the early 80's) would bust a gut at that notion. Techno, as we know it is mostly a Detroit invention and yes, it predates Rocket easily.  There are so many songs even outside of Detroit that fit better in the techno world  than Rocket.  During techno's early phases i slipped into sets plenty of songs from the 70's like "I feel love" and "popcorn" along with various Krafterk songs that fit in much easier than any hancock song, Rocket included.
2015/02/04 19:18:32
Drone7
dubdisciple
During techno's early phases.




 
Depends what your definition of "Techno" is. My definition of "Techno" is "Four to the floor", which to me started with "Hardhouse" in the early 90's. I think you're referring to "Electronic" when you say "Techno", and to me "Rockit" was the first time it went 'mainstream'.
 
We might say that Herbie's collaborator Michael Beinhorn was responsible for the "Rockit" sound, but Herbie got the credit for it.
2015/02/04 20:26:25
Anderton
Actually, Sufi mystics invented trance in the 1200s. But I'm sure they weren't the first.
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