Anderton

Drone7
Waiting for Studio One 3, any day now, apparently it's gonna be huge.

I was told at NAMM it's still a ways off..."later in the year."

Thanks for that. Looks like Presonus know they've got stiff competition. Sonar Professional here I come.

PS: Any idea when Cakewalk will have 'physical media' ready? Won't buy until then.

Drone7
Do i detect disingenuous overtones? You're a funny man. Anyway, just for starters...
 
Try Samantha Jade "Firestarter". And not AAC or MP3 if you wanna hear it properly.
 
Try Ellie Goulding "Burn". And not AAC or MP3 if you wanna hear it properly.
 
Try Nicki Minaj "Pound The Alarm" (not the 'explicit' version). And not AAC or MP3 if you wanna hear it properly.
 
 
Remember, listening to the AAC or MP3 version is not conducive to displaying the "well-produced" aspect of it, just in case you needed to be reminded.
 
 

OK, I tried Samantha and Ellie via youtube.  Once I muted them, I fully enjoyed watching both
 
JK - Those examples are very good 

BobF

Drone7
Do i detect disingenuous overtones? You're a funny man. Anyway, just for starters...
 
Try Samantha Jade "Firestarter". And not AAC or MP3 if you wanna hear it properly.
 
Try Ellie Goulding "Burn". And not AAC or MP3 if you wanna hear it properly.
 
Try Nicki Minaj "Pound The Alarm" (not the 'explicit' version). And not AAC or MP3 if you wanna hear it properly.
 
 
Remember, listening to the AAC or MP3 version is not conducive to displaying the "well-produced" aspect of it, just in case you needed to be reminded.
 
 

OK, I tried Samantha and Ellie via youtube.  Once I muted them, I fully enjoyed watching both
 
JK - Those examples are very good 

Simplicity plus vibe always get a tick in my books. Not sure what you're into but if you can do better then send me a link.

with regard to "1 or 2 dnb tracks using acc. drums".. please listen to more.. a lot of people I know use real drummers IF the budget permits.
 
the common trick is to use 2 kicks and the higher element being an accoustic drum , and the lower part being another drum with more "thump" in the low end.. same with snares also, it's common to use 2 joined to make a fatter sounding one.
 

I must agree with the original premise that the add-ins shouldn't be the main reason for upgrade $$.  Many users are asking for better functionality of the core program (Sonar); in my case, I would like to see improvements in Midi editing.
 
In terms of AD, it is actually my go-to drum processor with Sonar and has been for a long time.  However, I purchased AD1 long before it was included in Sonar and upgraded to AD2 well before this version was included in the latest Sonar.  I find it works well with my Roland kit and is easy to program but would defer to other, more expert users wrt to the quality of the sounds.
 
Regarding Midi editing, I have been in the game since the Commodore 64 and Atari ST were around.  Since then I have used a couple of very good midi editors in Windows that, unfortunately, are no longer supported.   My perception is that some of these had much better editing functionality.  That said, I think Sonar is a great product!
 
R

Actually what I'd like is better drums for electronic music.  I'm just dabbling in electronic music at the moment, and there's nothing there with the kind of power I was hoping for.  Everything sounded too weedy.  I got round it by finding some royalty-free single hit samples on the internet and then putting each drum type to an individual track, but this doesn't seem a particulary intuitive way of doing things.

kevmsmith81
Actually what I'd like is better drums for electronic music.  I'm just dabbling in electronic music at the moment, and there's nothing there with the kind of power I was hoping for.  Everything sounded too weedy.  I got round it by finding some royalty-free single hit samples on the internet and then putting each drum type to an individual track, but this doesn't seem a particulary intuitive way of doing things.

Get Kontakt and that will open up a whole world of samples, including EM drums.
 
Regards,
Dan

I tend to agree.
 
I wish most of the investment would go to core DAW functionalities (decent meters, noise generators, better system for control surfaces, import/export protools, super quick song making tools a la Fruity loops/Ableton Live, ...).
If going into plugings, why not make an agreement with Waves?
If going into VSTi, why not go with Synthogy, EastWest, Native Instruments, Spectrasonics or Izotope for a change. I've been using sonar since forever, and I'm tired of Rapture/Dimension.
BTW, an entry level bundled version of Izotope RX in Sonar would be tremendously useful to me, and I suspect, many others.

Personally i feel the OP has a point.. in prior Sonar upgrades, there were real, tangible improvements in functionality, and when Splat appeared, my view was "is that it?" and so I pretty much saw it as $149 for AD2, and for the first time in 6 years delayed my upgrade as i did not see a valid rationale.
 
Previously, Sonar was pretty much guaranteed to be stable and solid by April/May of the following year in its current incarnation.. (which was why i updated in May) never perfect of course, but a clear well known status.
So now, having recently upgraded in May from X3e to Splat D, with install issues, bugs and within 2 weeks the E release (needed for at least one bug) there is already yet another release E1 fixing issues related to the new E release, so i am at 3 installs in a 4 wk period... 5 months after Splat was launched.. the very scenario i wished to avoid
 
This is not how i wish to proceed.
 
At the end of the day, I have absolutely zero interest in a subscription model that drip feeds new features and new bugs along with old bug fixes. This has the byproduct of forcing multiples ongoing updates and reduces both confidence and stability in my studio system
 
which leaves me in a pickle...
 
Of course I do not need to update to the F, G, H I etc however as new bugs can (and are) being drip fed with updates, then the pickle is that at any time i choose not to continue to get the "latest and greatest" release, i can very well be left with recently introduced bugs...
 
and i dont like pickles....

dcumpian

kevmsmith81
Actually what I'd like is better drums for electronic music.  I'm just dabbling in electronic music at the moment, and there's nothing there with the kind of power I was hoping for.  Everything sounded too weedy.  I got round it by finding some royalty-free single hit samples on the internet and then putting each drum type to an individual track, but this doesn't seem a particulary intuitive way of doing things.

Get Kontakt and that will open up a whole world of samples, including EM drums.
 
Regards,
Dan

Or Battery.