Jesse G
Yes I can control all of the Pro channel plug ins.  I moved the Pro Channel around and have the compressor listed first, so when I used  used the MCU I was able to see the compressor first and then each subsequent plug in and tweak them as needed.

I know it is possible to control any ProChannel module when it is the first in the list (MCU "think" it is EQ). But with "subsequent"... either I do not understand something or that is not possible.

Jesse G
A lot of people don't take the time to read the help file

I read the source code
 

rezab
Ow cr#p,

Okay, I bought the impulse cause i needed good working controls for my newly acquired pro channel workflow...

I do not pretend to be an authority... May be it is good idea to ask Novation about that.

Generally speaking I don't know anything that controls the ProChannel except the eq which is in the first position.

Jesse, are you still using Sonar X1 or have you updated to Platinum now? Maybe that's the difference.

mudgel
Generally speaking I don't know anything that controls the ProChannel except the eq which is in the first position.

You can control other ProChannel modules as well, just not all of them. As was pointed out in another thread, if you click on a control and there are little white "corners" around the controls, you can control it. Otherwise you can't. Ones you can control include the EQ, PC4K S-Type Channel Compressor, PC4K S-Type Bus Compressor, PC76 U-Type Compressor, Concrete Limiter, Bus Compressor, U76 Compressor, and PC4K Expander/Gate. There may be more, but I know these ones work with the V-Studio, which is based on the Mackie Control.

Anderton

mudgel
Generally speaking I don't know anything that controls the ProChannel except the eq which is in the first position.

You can control other ProChannel modules as well, just not all of them. As was pointed out in another thread, if you click on a control and there are little white "corners" around the controls, you can control it. Otherwise you can't. Ones you can control include the EQ, PC4K S-Type Channel Compressor, PC4K S-Type Bus Compressor, PC76 U-Type Compressor, Concrete Limiter, Bus Compressor, U76 Compressor, and PC4K Expander/Gate.

I guess the modules you mention are old "Filter" replacements. I think the whole idea to derive ProChannel from Filters has many problems. Following "filter logic", there can be only one EQ, Comp., Gate., and Sat. In the "filters" they had to be in specific order. The possibility to move them around as well as completely different types of modules has introduced complete mess in that "filter logic". It simply does not "fit" well. It looks like CW developers has tried to make "something working" for V-Studio and only for it.
 

There may be more, but I know these ones work with the V-Studio, which is based on the Mackie Control.

V-Studio, Mackie Control, StudioMix, etc. (all of them!) have simple logic. They just deliver "Note On/Off" "CC change", "PB change" or "NRPN change" to the software. What make them "support ProChannel" or anything else is the plug-in.
 
Mackie Control plug-in is completely different from V-Studio one. MC plug-in is older, not ProChannel aware and has plug-ins parameters specification in INI file. V-Studio is newer, knows about ProChannel and has known plug-ins parameter specification hardcoded (!) into the source.

Ok,
 
please be patient...
 
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Anderton

You can control other ProChannel modules as well, just not all of them. As was pointed out in another thread, if you click on a control and there are little white "corners" around the controls, you can control it. Otherwise you can't. Ones you can control include the EQ, PC4K S-Type Channel Compressor, PC4K S-Type Bus Compressor, PC76 U-Type Compressor, Concrete Limiter, Bus Compressor, U76 Compressor, and PC4K Expander/Gate. There may be more, but I know these ones work with the V-Studio, which is based on the Mackie Control.

So it is possible to control more than one pro channel plugin per track?
 
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Jesse G
Hello Azlow,
 
Yes I can control all of the Pro channel plug ins.  I moved the Pro Channel around and have the compressor listed first, 

Please explain more, do you have control of all the PC modules if the compressor is set first?
Or do you mean you can control any PC plugin as long it is set first?
 

azslow3
 
Mackie Control plug-in is completely different from V-Studio one. MC plug-in is older, not ProChannel aware and has plug-ins parameters specification in INI file. V-Studio is newer, knows about ProChannel and has known plug-ins parameter specification hardcoded (!) into the source.

So the V studio is my best bet? Is there an affordable version available?
 
Thanks,
 
Reza
 
 

rezab
So it is possible to control more than one pro channel plugin per track?

With V-Studio.
 

Please explain more, do you have control of all the PC modules if the compressor is set first?
Or do you mean you can control any PC plugin as long it is set first?

My guess (from the source code) is 2. But may be some MCU owner can prove I am wrong.
 

So the V studio is my best bet? Is there an affordable version available?

VS-700 / 100 devices have at the moment best "original" plug-ins.
 
There is also one not original plug-in... my own. You can control  ProChannel modules with it. With any device. And it is free
Work in progress to do that not only possible but also a bit more user friendly. But in case you can accept that when you control some module the focus is changed to it (so ACT can be used), required configuration will not take long even in the current version. With Automap devices you can use "User" maps for that. Automap window will not show parameter names, but the number of ProChannel modules is limited as well as the number of parameters and there is a separate "window" which can display the mapping.

Okay,
 
Azlsow3 howcome you didn't mention your app earlier? Or is the configuration pro level stuff?
 
I found automap overcomplicated (opinion) but I managed quite fine... is that helping?
 
Where can I get a copy of thos application and do I need a manual?
What is the limitation of the controlable PC modules?
 
Getting excited again ... :D
 
thanks a lot.
 
Reza
 
P.s. So with your application all these problems with ACT/controllers and Sonar are history?
If so you should team up/work together. Your hard work could be rewarded with more then our gratitude ...

The link is in my signature. But configuring it requires some skills. There are manual, tutorials and several examples for configuration (from simple one up to MCU like). For several devices there are ready to use presets (from me and users).
 
It is not yet at the level of solving ALL problems. But it slowly goes in that direction.
 
Automap is extremely simple to deal with compare to this plug-in. Complex closed source one (Russian) man hobby project is what keeps many people stay away from it. Up to you to either "join the club" or search/wait till some out of the box solution from respected producer comes.

mudgel
Generally speaking I don't know anything that controls the ProChannel except the eq which is in the first position.

Jesse, are you still using Sonar X1 or have you updated to Platinum now? Maybe that's the difference.

 
Mudgel,

I am using Sonar X3e

Back in 2006 I wrote a help file for use of the BCF 2000 for the Sonar community.  I was out on sick leave for six months and was bored our of my wits, so I purchased a BCF 2000 and stayed at it until I figured it out with the help of the MCU help file in Sonar.   It was useful to a lot of Sonar users and they were able to set up their BCF controllers  to work properly with Sonar in Mackie mode.
 
Anyway,  the link below provides insight into the functionality of the BCF 2000.
http://www.rockinrob.co.uk/Files/BCF%20Sonar%20Mackie%20Mode%20Guide.pdf
 
The creator of the document  Fast Biker Boy was kind enough to give Myself -Jesse G, and Blades credit he received from from  the Sonar forums.
 
Peace,
 
Jesse G.