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2015/06/06 14:28:21
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Noel:
 
This symptomatic of every time I do it. I choose the DSD render option and it seems to be creating a DFF and temporary WAV file although this results in a crash everytime. Tell me where I should send a dmp file.
 
I use Windows 7 Professional, an EMU 1212M (original version) and usually 24-bit/48Khz for rendering. Everything else seems stable.
 
2015/06/06 14:31:48
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If can ever get this working, it may mean DSD can be used for bit-perfect recordings until further rendering to other sample rates. I have a feeling recordings already in another format may be a wasted effort if DSD adds nothing new or relevant to the sound.
 
2015/06/06 16:01:14
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Just an update:
 
I downloaded a demo DSF file and imported it into Sonar. It converted the DSD to 192K/32 bit. There seemed to be a bit of clipping, so I stuck a brickwall limiter on the master bus at -0.1dBFS.
 
Exported it to a FLAC Audio file at the same audio bitrate and sample rate.
 
Well the sound quality is absolutely brilliant even when converted to PCM. It's a little annoying I still have this quirk and possibly it's related to the performance of my system which was once very capable although it may be showing it's age now. :-(
 
 
 
2015/06/06 20:54:47
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Hi I looked at the crash dump you sent me.
Its crashing in an illegal SSE2 instruction. Also you appear to be running Braintree which is quite old :)
What are your CPU specs? DSD encoding requires a CPU with full SSE2 support.
2015/06/07 07:38:23
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Hi Noel,
 
http://products.amd.com/pages/desktopcpudetail.aspx?id=640&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
 
CPU Specification 
AMD 880G Chipset
 
Sonar version 21.4.00 BUILD 27
 
2015/06/07 07:54:17
mudgel
This Utlity will tell you if your CPU is running SSE2

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

AMD 880g is a MOBO chipset not a CPU.
2015/06/07 08:49:51
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No disrespect intended however I do know the difference between a CPU chipset and CPU. I'm going to check my CPU is doing what it's doing what it should be regardless.
 

 
I have theory that when I ran the updates for Sonar, something hasn't quite worked as intended. Either that or I need to build a new computer setup.
 
2015/06/07 09:27:37
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Hmm that CPU should definitely have full SSE2 support since its fairly recent.
The version of SONAR that generated the crash however is 21.2.0.21 which is Braintree and not Everett however so either you have not fully updated or you ran a different version somehow. What does Command center say?
 
Anyway I've sent the info to TASCAM as well.
 
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Hi Noel,
 
http://products.amd.com/pages/desktopcpudetail.aspx?id=640&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
 
CPU Specification 
AMD 880G Chipset
 
Sonar version 21.4.00 BUILD 27
 




2015/06/07 11:45:54
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Well it seems to be a recurring error for me. I managed to send an error report using the Error Generator in SP itself. However I did take a couple of screenshoots also, I can't quite figure out yet. I am not running my CPU at full speed of all the time just using a silent mode, could this be a problem with not having full-speed access? Is DSD conversion a CPU-based or DAC/ADC based process?
 
I'll up the ante and check my BIOS settings and report back though. Having something not working irks me.....as you can probably tell by now.
2015/06/07 12:52:53
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Still the same and I can confirm on 3 occasions that it reported the Everett edition and taking off cool'n'quiet never helped. 
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