You know what's really weird... somebody told me that version 1.5 was out a couple of weeks ago and being up there is age, when I went to the US ROLAND site, I saw only version 1.0, so I figured I must have dreamt this... but I also remember something about USB 3.0 in the discussion as well but forgot what the point was.

Tanks for clearin dis up.

Jim

jkleban


You know what's really weird... somebody told me that version 1.5 was out a couple of weeks ago and being up there is age, when I went to the US ROLAND site, I saw only version 1.0, so I figured I must have dreamt this... but I also remember something about USB 3.0 in the discussion as well but forgot what the point was.

Tanks for clearin dis up.

Jim

The newest update just appeared on the US website within the last two hours. Weird huh? Ironically, in the Cakewalk hardware forum folks were talking about this a while ago and apparently there are several very happy people with the drivers including Cakewalk staff.


The USB 3.0 thing was something I found out the hard way which is that it really does not work on a USB 3.0 interface unless it is exactly backward compatible with the USB 2.0 spec. It would have been nice if they had said this in the original documentation cause it would have saved me a LOT of debugging time. That said, at least they are saying it right up front now.


Based on the comments I have been seeing on the other forum I may just give this a try. If nobody hears from me for a while assume the update failed and I jumped off my roof in frustration ;-)


Ken

"Ironically, in the Cakewalk hardware forum folks were talking about this a while ago and apparently there are several very happy people with the drivers including Cakewalk staff" So happy and confident that they don't press release or reveal them to US market. Sounds like a public beta to me. ...rolled back tonight, problem disappeared. Rolled forward, problems reappeared. Rolled back and am staying where everything was stable. I jumped off a bridge in my mind. :)

JingleBells


Sonar crashed (froze) a couple times and the hardware subsequently locked up on an audible glitch that remained even after force quitting Sonar. 

I started getting this in my current project after upgrading to 1.5, but I wasn't sure if it was caused by the driver upgrade or something else I may have done recently. Using safe mode and solo tracks, I isolated it to a track using Rapture. Lockup would occur 30-40 seconds into the track, often at the exact same spot. Changed that track to use a Dim Pro patch and the crashes disappeared.  I've been considering rolling back, and probably will when I get to the point in this project where I want my Rapture patch back, or if new crashes appear.

Ok well I did the upgrade to 1.5 for BOTH of my Octa-Captures since you can't just do one of them as I found out. So far it seems to be working fine although it did not make my latency numbers go down at all. I suspect this is a consequence of using 2 Octa-Captures strapped together to expand to 16 total ports.

As far as getting noise I noticed that if I enabled the VS Expand checkbox it made everything sound awful. If you read the documentation it says that it only reports on the status of the link between the two units. Well....it sure does more than that cause if I run without that checked it works fine but not if it is checked.

Here is the detailed way I did my install. If you did it differently maybe things screw up. I was paranoid.

I first uninstalled the Octa-Capture drivers and unplugged all my USB devices except for my mouse per instructions.

I then put the first Octa-Capture into software update mode by holding down the button combination and then putting the power on. When it said to connect the USB cable I did so and the device came up as a disk on my computer.

I copied the software onto the virtual Octa-Capture disk drive per instructions and waited till it was done then disconnected the USB cable. When it said it was done and ready for reboot I power cycled it. It came up on V1.5.

I repeated the above for my second Octa-Capture which is slaved to the first one. Also no problems.

I disconnected the USB cables again and installed the V1.5 windows drivers. When it told me to I plugged my Octa-Capture in to the USB port and it said the drivers were successfully installed.

I had to reboot a couple of times but then Sonar X1c saw all 16 of my ports per usual. I played without any issues then decided to see what would happen if I popped the sample buffer size down to 96 samples at 96Khz. Bad idea cause I got dropouts. I was running Geist, Stylus RMX, Kontakt, Nexus 2, and Z3Ta 2 on my project at the time. I had a lot of stuff going on so it really did not shock me that this was a bad idea. When I put my buffers back up to 192 everything worked fine.

So....at least I did not have to jump off a roof. I wonder how low my latency could go if I did not have two Octa-Captures strung together?

Ken

Good update Ken... when I feel brave, I might do the update this weekend but am in the middle of a "creative" mode and don't want to BUZZKILL this while it lasts (these moments don't come that often for me).  :-)

Jim

Been playing around with the new stuff this morning and am finding it is very stable and my latencies are all fine. I stupidly had Norton on in my DAW (I know....****ed...). Instead of just disabling it as usual I uninstalled it and got down to 8.1 ms round trip latency with no dropouts while running Stylus RMX, Z3Ta 2, and Nexus 2 together in real time. I didn't feel it was necessary to push things so I put my buffers back up and am running with 10 ms latency round trip just to avoid any possibility of dropouts. All looks well.

I really like the new interface to the Octa-Capture control panel. A major improvement. Based on my limited experience I would say go for the update but be aware of how I did it (which was exactly how the documentation said to do it) if you want to have the best chance at avoiding problems.

Ken

Nashua huh?  I used to live in Keene about 10 years ago.... I told all of my friends that NH was GREAT for the 3 months it wasn't WINTER. 


I probably will try this as soon as my current project is completed (probably this weekend depending on how my Hammond organ tracks get completed (it is a real bear to mic up a LESLIE and get it to sound GREAT).

Jim

jkleban


Nashua huh?  I used to live in Keene about 10 years ago.... I told all of my friends that NH was GREAT for the 3 months it wasn't WINTER. 


I probably will try this as soon as my current project is completed (probably this weekend depending on how my Hammond organ tracks get completed (it is a real bear to mic up a LESLIE and get it to sound GREAT).

Jim

Hey I love NH all the time :-) Try VB3 and you don't have to set up any of that stuff.


Ken

I have tried every VSTi and sample set of Hammonds.... nothing sounds like a mic'ed up Leslie and a Hammond.....  

Getting the Leslie quiet enough to record is the trick (of course a good room and good mics and good pre's help a little as well)....

I actually got my OCTOPUS just to record my Hammond/Leslie.....

I modded the Leslie to provide two DI's after the crossover for the horn and drum signals, two mics on the top rotor, another mic on the bottom rotor and then a couple of stereo room mics... 6 tracks of audio to blend together to create just that RIGHT sound for a mix.

Anyway, one my Helios mic pre/EQ's crapped out and I had to return it to VINTAGE KING and now the Hammond recording is going to have to wait... so maybe I will install the new OCTA software sooner than later...

Jim