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  • Golden ears challenge (p.3)
2015/04/21 12:45:49
gbowling
synkrotron - yes I agree about losing your high freq when you get older. I'm also a drummer so I've burned a lot of ear drum cells doing that! My wife says I have CHS disease! But when a song comes on, I'm always saying, that voice needs to be 2db higher, or that reverb is too long for my liking, or this or that. 
 
I think it may be that I've learned, at least in music, to hear changes in other things that happen when you change EQ in the high freq range.  For me, being a drummer, I listen to the hihats and can hear a change in them. Also, if I recall the test didn't have anything really high, seems like the highest was in the range you mentioned, 12k-14k. 
 
I'm just stumped about the mp3s. I went from selecting the right answer in a few seconds to failing over and over on the mp3s! Obviously some change that I've not trained my brain to recognize. hahaha.. It's hell getting old!
 
gabo
2015/04/21 19:27:38
jps
It is official , I now have golden ears :-))
I really enjoyed doing this ear training program.
Thanks for sharing !
2015/04/21 19:56:36
gswitz
I finished too, but with a certain amount of cheating on identifying the frequency bumps and cuts. Man that one was a dog!!
2015/04/22 00:44:41
Sir Les
Oh yah just what I am looking for...ear training and testing...I was looking into that myself with test tones...thanks man!
2015/04/22 19:51:07
gbowling
Old and "golden ears"  here!
 
At my age, close to 60, I might have to turn it up louder, but I can still hear it!! Except for the mp3 artifacts, which kicked my butt for a while. 
 
At any rate, I really enjoyed doing this and learned that I need more work on recognizing mp3 artifacts. Although I'm not sure that's all that important.. if it's an mp3, it has artifacts! haha.
 
It would be a really good exercise for someone starting out, gets your ears tuned into things you need to understand.
 
gabo
2015/04/22 21:14:24
Grem
gbowling

But when a song comes on, I'm always saying, that voice needs to be 2db higher, or that reverb is too long for my liking, or this or that. 
 
gabo


This is what I do also. I analyze every song I hear now. And I knew I would do this when I started learning to mix.


Now I can't stand to listen to music radio because they have some of the worst compression algorithms out there. The soft low music of a song is louder than the loud parts!! Is nobody but me hearing this?

I listen to songs and tell people around me "Hear that sax? Man it sounds good!" They look at me and say "What sax?"

And the first "Remastered" ZZ Top stuff had entirely too much digital reverb.

Can't wait to take the test.
2015/04/23 07:27:43
theheliosequence
I don't think getting through this constitutes having golden ears imho... but the MP3 test and guessing which frequency test were interesting.
2015/04/23 11:57:42
bitflipper
That was fun. Thanks, Noel.
 
Some of the more subtle tests are going to be difficult with headphones, though, as once the filters are effecting 6 dB or less change they may be applying less effect than your headphones' inherent nonlinearity. Ideally, you'll want to do this on high-quality speakers.
2015/04/23 14:06:40
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
You are probably right. I'm travelling and only have a laptop and ultimate ears in-ears.
I got up to the silver level but can't get past the more subtle timber tests in gold. Either my HF hearing isn't good enough or the in-ears are unable to pick up the differences. Im stuck in an endless loop since each test you fail it downgrades you back to a prior level lol.  Those WOOX dudes are a tough crowd :-P
2015/04/23 14:14:03
John T
I think it's a headphones issue. I did this test about a year ago, and I did amazingly well at it, which I don't think is because I'm amazing or anything. I know my hearing is far from perfect, so I think it's not pitched all that hard. In a decent monitoring environment, I think most reasonably competent engineers should do well.
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