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2015/06/02 23:51:40
...wicked
I'll be curious to hear Cake chime in. They've always had some pretty deep connections with MS with regard to coding and compatibility. Hopefully they can drop some tech bizzle on us.
 
2015/06/03 01:01:37
kitekrazy1
 I've spent hours trying to deal with "Setup was unable to create a new system partition".  This is flaw since Windows 8.
 
Dual boot was a no go.   I'll try in place upgrade.   I would not recommend dual boot on the same drive. 
 
I might have to travel back to the planet IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!
 
I couldn't boot back into my OS for awhile.  Acronis is your friend.  
 



2015/06/03 02:22:59
arachnaut
kitekrazy1
 I've spent hours trying to deal with "Setup was unable to create a new system partition".  This is flaw since Windows 8.
 
Dual boot was a no go.   I'll try in place upgrade.   I would not recommend dual boot on the same drive. 
 
I might have to travel back to the planet IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT!
 
I couldn't boot back into my OS for awhile.  Acronis is your friend.  
 







I was able to make a dual boot Windows 7/Windows 8 system on an MBR drive.
It worked, but once there was a disk check and chkdsk ran. This happened a few times and the chkdsk would not fix the problem.
 
I finally figured out that the chkdsk was scheduled by Windows 7 and the fault was in the Windows 8 area.
The partition table portion that handles the dirty bits changed from Windows 7 to 8, so a Windows 7 chkdsk can not fix a Windows 8 partition.
 
So you really want a dual boot system to have two drives. Don't allow one OS to access another OS in any way.
 
The "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" doesn't work for me. Preventive maintenance is a sound practice. Otherwise why see a doctor unless you are 'broken'?
 
Sooner or later you will use Windows 10. You might not want to be the first on the block to use it, but eventually you will. It's suppose to be the last OS you will ever need. Once we are all using it, maybe we can get rid of all those compatibility layers in Windows that slow things down and make things so complex.
 
 
 
2015/06/03 03:41:34
kitekrazy1
 I did an upgrade from W7.  It kept everything.  It changes your icons.  My M-Audio FW410 and AP102 work.  There's a lot of features in this OS which means we will have to learn how to optimize this for audio.
 BTW the start menu is superior. All apps are in order listed under letters.
 
 As for a DAW I'm not getting better results.  That could be from not knowing what processes to shut down plus I have to defrag the drive.  It might be better with a clean install.
 What I like it check disk is a lot faster and done in the OS and will reboot if it needs repaired and it also fast.
 
2015/06/03 08:56:28
fireberd
Some additional info I got from the Windows 10 forum and Microsoft.  To get the "free" Win 10 upgrade you have to do an upgrade of the existing OS (Win 7/Win 8.1), you can't do a "clean" install.   However, after you do the upgrade you can then do a clean install if needed. 
 
Here is some info posted on the Win 10 forum on this.
 
Well, those of you who prefer clean install over the upgrade will be able glad to know that you will be able to perform a clean install of Windows 10 by wiping your hard drive after the upgrade. That is, once you successfully upgrade to Windows 10, you can clean install Windows 10 using the license. The information comes is straight from Gabriel Aul, the head of Windows Insider Program at Microsoft.

Although Microsoft has not provided much information about the clean install, Microsoft will likely allow users download Windows 10 ISO by entering Windows 10 product key that you get after the upgrade.

In short, it’s possible to perform clean install of Windows 10 once you successfully upgrade to Windows 10.
Can I clean install Windows 10 without upgrading?

No. If you’re coming from Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 and want to upgrade to Windows 10 for free, you must upgrade your Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 installation to Windows 10 first. Once successfully upgraded, you will able to perform clean install of Windows 10.

In the meanwhile, if you’re on Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 you can register for the free upgrade. And if you have already registered, we recommend you check if your computer and installed programs are compatible with Windows 10 using Upgrade Advisor in Get the Windows 10 app. And if you want to know what edition of Windows 10 you will get after the upgrade, go through our What version of Windows 10 will I get when I upgrade guide.
 
 
2015/06/03 11:57:56
arachnaut
Windows 10 forum reports that one will be able to do a clean install of Windows 10 after you perform the update.
 
http://www.tenforums.com/...ed-clean-installs.html
2015/06/03 12:17:24
YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
We don't own CW software. We purchase a license to use it until we don't or can't. Been the same with MS software for years. Always makes me crazy to hear anybody complain about buying a new copy of windows. I have clients that still use XP, which they bought with the computer for about $30. And yet they complain about how it sometimes crashes. Windows XP (and most versions of windows) has essentially cost nothing for anyone who is using, or has used it.
 
What bugs me the most is all this LOG-IN crap: browsers, adobe reader, an MS account to use my computer which gives immediate control to the clowns at MS.
 
Always connected to the net should not require always connected to MS,....
 
I am not opposed to subscriptions. I have mostly been endorsing pay for use since the beginning. Especially for the internet. Pay per use for email would mean essentially NO spam.
 
People who use CW products everyday and get paid to do so should pay more than me. Just like phone service, and gas and electric,...
 
 
If it ain't broke, perform some maintenance to keep it that way. And if it can be improved without interfering with what already works just fine, tinker a bit.
 
2015/06/03 12:24:55
kitekrazy1
arachnaut
Windows 10 forum reports that one will be able to do a clean install of Windows 10 after you perform the update.
 
http://www.tenforums.com/...ed-clean-installs.html




 Pretty dumb isn't it.  BTW from my experience with W10, you may want to do a clean install. Otherwise you'll need to defrag and run a disk check and repair.
2015/06/03 14:26:06
fireberd
You have to do the upgrade to get the free Win 10, from what I see reported.  You will get the Product Key with the upgrade.  You will then be able to do a clean install using that Product Key. 
 
I have Win 10 Preview installed on my backup system.  The new versions take "forever" to install but I haven't lost any user applications (e.g. Sonar and the Command Center), device drivers, etc.  I haven't had any disc problems either.  Win 10 Preview is installed on a separate hard drive (this is a triple boot system Win 7/Win 8.1/Win 10 Preview.
2015/06/03 21:01:16
kevinwal
If you purchase a Win10 license you clean install without an upgrade. I believe this to be true. :)
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