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2015/05/26 11:31:03
Bristol_Jonesey
Shouldn't make any difference where it is Beep.
 
Mine's on my C drive, projects & audio are on E
2015/05/26 11:44:24
scook
Beepster
 
Essentially, Projects and Audio on E drive. Picture folder on C. Roight?
 

Yes. I don't think you will notice a difference unless you are working with very large files. IIRC, there are still some occasions when the global folder is used as a temp directory and having to copy large temp files takes much more time than moving files on the same drive.
2015/05/26 11:46:10
Bristol_Jonesey
The Global Folder, to my knowledge, is only used if you start a new project by hitting Ctrl + N
2015/05/26 11:47:03
scook
Actually I don't mess with the Preference for the "Global Audio Folder", this is a case where I create a directory junction. Either way will work.
2015/05/26 12:04:35
Beepster
This is absolutely golden info. Thank you so much guys. I was kind of understanding it all but these extra insights are really driving it home.
 
And yeah... if the Global folder gets used for temp stuff for whatever reason it makes perfect sense to leave it on C. I guess that is some kind of buffer/cache/preload type thing?
 
Whatevs... I have finished completely ripping apart the manuals for some of my more used plugs and testing things out (although there is always more). Essentially I was spending every day with PDFs open in front of the DAW trying things out. Now I'm going to start keeping the Reference Guide open every day and poking around that to solve some of these oddball mysteries I have not been able to fully figure out yet. Think I'm going to have to go about this a different way. Doing it linearly (from start to finish) is going to lead to far too much duplication of studies (I already know large swaths of the material covered in the RG) so I think I'm going to just open the bugger up every morning and scout the Table of Contents for anything that jumps out at me.
 
The nice thing is that even though a lot of that stuff is obviously geared toward Sonar I learn a ton of more general audio production terms and techniques. First time I tried to read through the entire Ref Guide was with X2 (made it to about page 750) and there was a lot of stuff that I simply did not understand due to lack of experience with the basic concepts behind the functions being discussed (like WHY someone would do those things and what the results are... for example I knew jack bollocks about MIDI back then).
 
Oops. Another long post. Thanks again, doods. Very helpful.
 
Cheers.
2015/05/27 13:31:58
Beepster
Alright... after sleeping on it and reading a little more I wanted to ask another question about another scenario.
 
So my current project is getting a little sluggish as usual due to the massive amount of data involved. Obviously my whole resoning behind wanting to shuffle my data around so it's dispersed across both of my available drives (as opposed to just the C drive which is the current setup) is to get a performance boost.
 
This should be a good, albeit non scientific, test of how much improvement can be had by having/moving my project and audio data onto the second drive. I have been working with this project on and off for... well a very long time, so the lags, quirks etc are apparent and I have some standard tasks that usually cause the lags and general quirks lined up (low latency recording into heavily take lane laden tracks, speed comping, etc).
 
So the idea is to keep working as is for a bit from the C drive so I can really pay attention to the lags and issues.
 
THEN I'll change the default Project Files folder in Preferences so that all new projects and their audio end up on the E drive.
 
Now this is where I would like confirmation of the behavior I sould expect...
 
After changing the default Project Files path in Preferences to the new drive I would do a Save As of the project in question. I would make sure that in the Save As dialog that the Project and Audio paths lead to the new project folder on my second drive.
 
Question 1: By doing a Save As after changing the default Project Files path in Prefs will the project now save to that new location or would that have to be changed manually?
 
Question 2: I am assuming, based on the documentation, that to successfully migrate the entire project using Save As with PPAF selected that I would also have to select the Copy All Audio With Project checkbox selected.
 
Am I on the right path here?
 
Originally I said I didn't care about old projects but this is an "important" and ongoing project that I am very intimate with so if there is indeed a significant boost in performance I will notice it almost immediately. I just don't want to screw it up and waste time (so I'm wasting yours... sorry).
 
Might be useful for others in a similar predicament because honestly this file shuffling is actually confusing and intimidating as frack. I've been at it for over three years with Sonar and the only reason I'm really getting this PPAF procedure now is from digging into the page 1400s section of the manual on a random stab.
 
Cheers, thanks and sorry for being stoopid. :-p
2015/05/27 13:40:54
mudgel
Q1. The default setting really only effects where the file save as location dialog box starts when it opens. Technically you could still navigate to any place you want to put your project.

Q2. Yes. Remember when you do that if there is an audio file in the folder that is no longer referenced by the project it will not be included. It's also a way of cleaning out projects of disused files.

Hope it helps.
2015/05/27 13:48:01
Beepster
Hi, Mike. Indeed it does but I forgot to add something further to the question (sorry).
 
When I do these types of PPAF Save As backups/migrations using the Copy All Audio feature... are Archived Tracks included in the Copy or ignored? I have a lot of Archived Tracks/Clips in this project that I may or may not want to move with it.
 
Thanks.
2015/05/27 14:22:12
Bristol_Jonesey
Yes Beep, Archived tracks are also copied when you do a Save As, with or without PPAF enabled, as long as Copy Audio is checked.
 
Actually I just checked, if PPAF is NOT enabled, you don't get the option to choose Copy Audio with project, it is however still available in the saved project and references the location where it was saved
2015/05/27 15:13:01
Beepster
Thanks, Jonesey. I am EVER so pleased about all of this. It is going to save me an extraordinary amoutn of time and effort.
 
I was actually considering completely backing everything up and wipe the system to start from scratch to acheive the same end result. This all seems like a much easier solution... lolzity.
 
Seriously, thanks guys. One of the massive weights on my mind has been lifted by this thread/discovery.
 
Cheers.
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