olemon

tlw
I stopped using the track fx bin ages ago, and just put everything in the pro-channel using fx chains to load vst's. The only exception being when I want some fx pre fader and some post when the two locations for "insert" fx are useful, but even then the post fader fx can be put on a bus which the track is routed to. Which was the situation pre pro-channel when there was only the fx bins.

The pro-channel really makes the channel/bus fx bins redundant other than for ease of loading old projects that did use them.

As keni says, the biggest limitation in Sonar regarding fx/processing now is the restriction to only one quad-curve eq per audio track/bus.

Thanks.  I'm sure glad I asked the question.  I skipped right over some of this documentation in the Power Book and so on.  Just read through it.  I know there are new Fx Chains available, but until now I haven't been curious enough about them or maybe experienced enough to consider what they can do.

In their most simple use, it's an easy way to place standard vst plugin's anywhere in the PC chain... You can use many chains within a single PC with 1 or many devices in each instance.

In practice, it eliminated the need for the fx bin, but it's often handy to place devices in the bin and have Tthe PC pre/post ...

So for me all that remains desireabke would be the ability to have more than one instance of the quad curve in a single PC.... Maybe soon? I really like working with the quad curve!

Keni

Keni

olemon

tlw
I stopped using the track fx bin ages ago, and just put everything in the pro-channel using fx chains to load vst's. The only exception being when I want some fx pre fader and some post when the two locations for "insert" fx are useful, but even then the post fader fx can be put on a bus which the track is routed to. Which was the situation pre pro-channel when there was only the fx bins.

The pro-channel really makes the channel/bus fx bins redundant other than for ease of loading old projects that did use them.

As keni says, the biggest limitation in Sonar regarding fx/processing now is the restriction to only one quad-curve eq per audio track/bus.

Thanks.  I'm sure glad I asked the question.  I skipped right over some of this documentation in the Power Book and so on.  Just read through it.  I know there are new Fx Chains available, but until now I haven't been curious enough about them or maybe experienced enough to consider what they can do.

In their most simple use, it's an easy way to place standard vst plugin's anywhere in the PC chain... You can use many chains within a single PC with 1 or many devices in each instance.

In practice, it eliminated the need for the fx bin, but it's often handy to place devices in the bin and have Tthe PC pre/post ...

So for me all that remains desireabke would be the ability to have more than one instance of the quad curve in a single PC.... Maybe soon? I really like working with the quad curve!

Keni

There is the added bonus of having many "ready to roll" presets, a lot of which were specifically written by Craig Anderton.
 
I find myself turning to them quite often for all kinds of applications. The most important parameters are exposed for tweaking and they can be placed anywhere within the Pro Channel, or in the Fx bin

Bristol_Jonesey
The most important parameters are exposed for tweaking and they can be placed anywhere within the Pro Channel, or in the Fx bin

What's more, the knobs can actually control four different parameters, so they're essentially macro controls. This feature is crucial to the FX Chains I create.

Is there a walk through for creating these FX chains so we can see how it's done?

ampfixer
Is there a walk through for creating these FX chains so we can see how it's done?

That's a really good idea!!! Just don't tell Andrew, he'll expect me to do a video about it tonight.
 
Is there any particular one for which you'd like to see a walkthrough? I mean, if you're giving free consulting, I'm going to take advantage of it...

Anderton

ampfixer
Is there a walk through for creating these FX chains so we can see how it's done?

That's a really good idea!!! Just don't tell Andrew, he'll expect me to do a video about it tonight.
 
Is there any particular one for which you'd like to see a walkthrough? I mean, if you're giving free consulting, I'm going to take advantage of it...

Sorry, I don't get this bit. I'm happy to see the process applied to any non PC plug-in, particularly the bit about controlling multiple parameters with one control. Could I create a control that would allow me to put a Waves CLA2 in the PC and have a single knob that would increase input gain and peak reduction at the same time?
 
I assumed those of the sorts of controls you use on your FX chains.

ampfixer

Anderton

ampfixer
Is there a walk through for creating these FX chains so we can see how it's done?

That's a really good idea!!! Just don't tell Andrew, he'll expect me to do a video about it tonight.
 
Is there any particular one for which you'd like to see a walkthrough? I mean, if you're giving free consulting, I'm going to take advantage of it...

Sorry, I don't get this bit. I'm happy to see the process applied to any non PC plug-in, particularly the bit about controlling multiple parameters with one control. Could I create a control that would allow me to put a Waves CLA2 in the PC and have a single knob that would increase input gain and peak reduction at the same time?
 
I assumed those of the sorts of controls you use on your FX chains.

I'm thinking he meant that due to your knowledge of interesting hardware and how they shape sound you could offer up some cool configurations. I'd be interested in that as well. You'd likely be able to construct some nice "amp" FXChains.
 
And yeah... you can totally map multiple paramaters to a single control as well as create any kind of max/min settings for the individual parameters and even reverse them (so one thing goes up and the other goes down simultanwously with the same control). I think you might even be able to control the curves of those adjustments (but I may be thinking of advanced MIDI settings... I'd have to check the manual to see if FX Chains have that capability).
 
They are actually really easy to put together.

simultanwously
 
There I go making up new werds again. I kinda like that one. lol

What I meant was that you were making a really good suggestion of something I could do, so to me that's free consulting  (Well unless you send me a bill, in which case I retract what I said.) 
 
However, I thought maybe there was a specific FX Chain you had in mind so I wanted to know if you wanted a walkthrough of how that FX Chain was made. But given that what I said confused you, you probably meant you wanted to know the general procedure rather than a walkthrough of a specific one. Correct?
 
You definitely can do things like compress and raise the volume to compensate...and a lot more.

By all means, feel free to dissect any of your FX chains, I'm sure to learn a lot and I think there's lots of others out there that would benefit.