So few, Mr. bitflipper?  I always thought that was part of the problem w/ Cake - too much staff for the PC market for DAWs.  But one programmer seems a bit low for anything other fixing bugs.  The only larger DAW company (excepting PT) that is doing well seems to be Steinberg , which is both dual OS and has the integration w/ Yamaha hardware.  Roland tried, but if I was a CEO I wouldn't want to have to pay two licensing fees for a PC DAW and Mac.  However, with a small workforce you can make PC-only DAWS viable - see the list.
 
The last thing Cake needs is to polish a functional Direct X effect so it looks better.  Because: it is a waste of money to further develop a dead end technology you can't sell - "What, this isn't a VST?  What the hell is it?" Secondly, the dynamic face plate of the comp is a perfect picture of what happens to the sound - the knee and ratios and how they curb the volume.  Better than any # of youtube videos.  You can't make it sexier than that.

I believe two coders were retained. Also one from QA and one from support. Possibly more by this time, IDK.
 
The Sonitus Suite did have a 32bit VST version as part of the paid bundle. Rather than rework the UI, if BandLab was going to throw money at the Sonitus plug-ins, I would rather see the VST format ported to 64bit. The fewer DX plug-ins the better.

scook
I believe two coders were retained. Also one from QA and one from support. Possibly more by this time, IDK.
 
The Sonitus Suite did have a 32bit VST version as part of the paid bundle. Rather than rework the UI, if BandLab was going to throw money at the Sonitus plug-ins, I would rather see the VST format ported to 64bit. The fewer DX plug-ins the better.

I agree with this Scook. I think the GUIs have a bit of charm actually. Seen far worse. Would be nice to have the sonitus suite as 64 bit.

Port the Sonitus plugs to vst. Leave the interface as-is. I'm not bothered about the Nomad plugins.

I bought MixBus32C with waves Scheps Omni channel and F6, got the overloud verbs unlocked. Some of the other splat native plugs work in MB too like Channel tools and LA comp.

Personally, I only use Splat now for midi composition and production as it's pretty powerful. MB for mastering too.

Mixing in MB really works for me and I'm happy with the sound and workflow.

Just my 2d's...

scook
The Sonitus Suite did have a 32bit VST version as part of the paid bundle. Rather than rework the UI, if BandLab was going to throw money at the Sonitus plug-ins, I would rather see the VST format ported to 64bit. The fewer DX plug-ins the better.

agree, i would've bought them already if VST64

First impressions ?
 
Is it not exactly the same thing with fewer options and a different badge ? 
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that the program lives and that there is potential for it to grow and become further developed, but until that happens what new impressions are there to have?

chris.r

scook
Because the Breverb2 PC module is bundled with CbB.

Oh, I thought it belongs to the "third party" section... glad to see it here.
 
I'm on 32bit laptop, couldn't install CakeLab yet.

CbB Cakewalk by BandLab is 64 bit only. There won’t be a 32bit version.

paulo
First impressions ?
 
Is it not exactly the same thing with fewer options and a different badge ? 
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that the program lives and that there is potential for it to grow and become further developed, but until that happens what new impressions are there to have?

No, CbB is actually the next generation of SONAR Platinum. There is some confusion between the distinction between the Platinum program and the bundle. There were two components to to our older SKU's.
The program itself platinum, studio, artist and home studio all had different feature sets with platinum having the largest and most complete set. Next we had a bunch of add on plugins in the package. Some were third party and some were Cakewalk plugin's that we bundled along with the SONAR platinum program.
 
The CbB program that we released is identical to Platinum with the exception of the POW-r dither that we had to take out for licensing reasons. It actually has more features and fixes than Platinum since we've been working on it awhile now. The next update which will no longer be listed as early access, has even more bug fixes and more enhancements to the two new features that were added. We also have some more add on's in the package coming.
 
If you have platinum already installed you can utilize all the add ons and plugins from there that are not included in the CbB release. So in fact if you have CbB you now have the most up to date and feature complete version of Cakewalk. Hope this clarifies things.
 

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]

paulo
First impressions ?
 
Is it not exactly the same thing with fewer options and a different badge ? 
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that the program lives and that there is potential for it to grow and become further developed, but until that happens what new impressions are there to have?

No, CbB is actually the next generation of SONAR Platinum. There is some confusion between the distinction between the Platinum program and the bundle. There were two components to to our older SKU's.
The program itself platinum, studio, artist and home studio all had different feature sets with platinum having the largest and most complete set. Next we had a bunch of add on plugins in the package. Some were third party and some were Cakewalk plugin's that we bundled along with the SONAR platinum program.
 
The CbB program that we released is identical to Platinum with the exception of the POW-r dither that we had to take out for licensing reasons. It actually has more features and fixes than Platinum since we've been working on it awhile now. The next update which will no longer be listed as early access, has even more bug fixes and more enhancements to the two new features that were added. We also have some more add on's in the package coming.
 
If you have platinum already installed you can utilize all the add ons and plugins from there that are not included in the CbB release. So in fact if you have CbB you now have the most up to date and feature complete version of Cakewalk. Hope this clarifies things.
 

You'll have to trust me that I'm typing this with a smile on my face and with no malice intended, but on the one hand you're saying it's "next generation" on the other "identical to platinum" with a few things missing which is what I said it and hence couldn't understand the first impressions logic.
 
I fully understand re the licensing issue and that whatever I had before I still have, but there is no longer a 32 bit option, hence why I referred to it as the same thing with less options. Purely from my perspective that omission presents me with some issues and is the reason I have not installed the "next generation" version onto my DAW pc and will not until there is a compelling reason to do so. I wish you and all who are associated with the product well and sincerely hope that I will one day feel that what I will gain use of from having it will outweigh what I will lose the use of by having it.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
 



No, CbB is actually the next generation of SONAR Platinum........... It actually has more features and fixes than Platinum since we've been working on it awhile now. The next update which will no longer be listed as early access, has even more bug fixes and more enhancements to the two new features that were added. We also have some more add on's in the package coming.
 
If you have platinum already installed you can utilize all the add ons and plugins from there that are not included in the CbB release. So in fact if you have CbB you now have the most up to date and feature complete version of Cakewalk. Hope this clarifies things.

 
Thanks for the SPLAT/CbB clarification Noel. I installed CbB alongside my SPLAT install and have been primarily using CbB since it was released and will continue to do so. With SPLAT installed as a working backup, I still have access to all of the premium and third party content while using the latest most up to date and feature complete CbB going forward.
Looking forward to what the future brings to CbB!