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2015/05/25 12:37:09
THambrecht
With "only" Sonar we have made hundreds of CD-masters.
We digitize old vinyl and master-tapes for customers and make cd-masters für many thousends of CDs.
I do all Restauration, EQ, Compression and volume adjustment within Sonar.
Simpy export the wav-file form every single song to disc 44/16:
01 - Song 1
02 - Song 2
...
12 - Song 12
12 Songs are 12 wav-files.
Each song MUST have a little bit silence at the end, because of the pause between the tracks.
Then burn it with Ahead Nero (with NO pause between the tracks).
Just like this CD sounds - your production will sound the same.
 
You Need nothing else but Sonar, and a Programm like Ahead Nero to burn the Master-CD.
2015/05/25 18:28:40
petelaramee
THambrecht
With "only" Sonar we have made hundreds of CD-masters.
We digitize old vinyl and master-tapes for customers and make cd-masters für many thousends of CDs.
I do all Restauration, EQ, Compression and volume adjustment within Sonar.
Simpy export the wav-file form every single song to disc 44/16:
01 - Song 1
02 - Song 2
...
12 - Song 12
12 Songs are 12 wav-files.
Each song MUST have a little bit silence at the end, because of the pause between the tracks.
Then burn it with Ahead Nero (with NO pause between the tracks).
Just like this CD sounds - your production will sound the same.
 
You Need nothing else but Sonar, and a Programm like Ahead Nero to burn the Master-CD.


This is the kind of info I'm looking for.  I would not have left space between certain songs (especially ones that run together).  There are 1000 youtube vids showing how to mix & master, but I found one vid (Samplitute) to help prepare for CD replication/duplication/production.
 
Thank you, sir.
 
2015/05/25 19:29:26
Keni
Bristol_Jonesey
I use Sony's CD Architect


Me too...

As far as I know the current cd burning built into a sonar is not redbook (or is it now?)

Sonar can do all the audio work and burn basic one-offs but it is not a fully implemented CD assembly/burning software...

I don't know if Sony even makes/sells CD Architect and I think they now include its ability into DVD Architect...

It was not an expensive program (cd architect)...

If you don't have any cash to spend I'll bet there are a slew of such programs for free from cnet's http://www.download.com ...?

Keni
2015/05/25 19:54:54
petelaramee
It looks like iTunes will digitally name the songs?  Via Gracenote? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro57OCVsQNY
 
2015/05/25 21:47:37
Larry Jones
Pete - I think you'll need to barcode your product for Gracenote to catalog it. As before, I recommend you contact your duplicator and find out if they offer such a service and what format(s) they require.
2015/05/25 21:50:04
SF_Green
Yes, if it's in the Gracenote database.  I listen to a lot of off-beat stuff and am surprised when I rip CD's how often iTunes asks to send the info to Gracenote.
2015/05/25 23:51:09
rebel007
Sonar does offer mastering FX and they are advertised as such. I don't think there is any reason why, if that's the road you wish to take, why you can't mix and master your tracks in your own studio and end up with a perfectly acceptable product. In fact I'm sure this is the way many mastering engineers have made their start. Just follow the advice of some of the above comments and watch as many videos as you can regarding the subject.
 
The reason I send my CD's off to have them mastered outside Sonar is:
1. My mastering engineer has a much better FX suite in his studio.
2. His studio is acoustically better equipped than mine.
3. He has a fresh set of ears, that I trust implicitly to, add (or subtract) parts of the tracks, lengthen or shorten the amount of silence between tracks, and/or order of said tracks.
2015/05/26 12:01:24
petelaramee
Thanks for the info about Gracenote and iTunes.  I'm waiting to hear back from the production company about naming the songs. 
2015/05/26 12:03:50
petelaramee
rebel007
Sonar does offer mastering FX and they are advertised as such. I don't think there is any reason why, if that's the road you wish to take, why you can't mix and master your tracks in your own studio and end up with a perfectly acceptable product. In fact I'm sure this is the way many mastering engineers have made their start. Just follow the advice of some of the above comments and watch as many videos as you can regarding the subject.
 
The reason I send my CD's off to have them mastered outside Sonar is:
1. My mastering engineer has a much better FX suite in his studio.
2. His studio is acoustically better equipped than mine.
3. He has a fresh set of ears, that I trust implicitly to, add (or subtract) parts of the tracks, lengthen or shorten the amount of silence between tracks, and/or order of said tracks.


I usually record everything at my place and bring all the tracks to a local studio to be mixed and mastered.  This is the 8th project I've worked with that same engineer.  I trust his ears completely.  This time I had him come and help me mix for a few days at my place.  I'm also having him come back to help me finish mastering and get the CD ready for duplication.  He doesn't know much about Sonar...I just want to make sure I have everything I need to finish this and send it off before he gets here.
 
Thanks to everyone for your replies!  Every one has been helpful.
 
 
2015/05/26 13:58:18
slartabartfast
You can use the free application Imgburn to create a physical CD that will play in CD players, and use the cue file option to name and space the tracks.
 
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=5555
 
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