williamcopper
Whew.   I read nearly all.   what resonated most:  volunteer moderators, don't move posts, don't criticize them, just let the rest of us read and ponder .... please.

I wish I understood what you are saying here. "Volunteer moderators" as you put it don't loose their membership by being hosts. You do know that the OP is a host? 

Seems clear to me John what he was saying. He read all, not just the OP post, and feels that vibe of the thread is that hosts shouldn't move and judge posts, but let the everyone come to their own conclusions.
 
Where did you get the idea about loosing membership from that?

John

Susan G
Hi-
 
I think the level of helpfulness here is about the same as always (i.e., very high)! I think the "personality" of the SONAR forum has changed somewhat, though. I wasn't around when the forum hosts were first added and some of the subforums created. I'm not crazy about the tone/content of some of the forum hosts' posts, esp. when they say they like or respect certain members or particularly value their input, yada-yada, or argue ad infinitum a single point to make sure they're seen as "right."  It shouldn't matter whether a host "likes" or "respects" a forum member when they're applying the rules, IMO.
 
Maybe they're in an untenable position as members *and* hosts, but it seems to me they should try to be objective and leave out the subjective stuff, if possible.
 
-Susan

I think you misinterpret the post I made. I know you have taken it out of context. Nor have you considered the outcome.  

That's a bit strong!

Bottom line Hosts aren't hosts until they do something host like...They are paying customers as well. If people feel they should not be treated like paying customers they should get over it.

When I'm pissed with moderation I'm pissed with the moderation and not the host unless they start going all Rambo or start inventing their own rules to save face.

Anderton
It seems there's much more emphasis on tips and techniques lately. What's more, some of the "feature request"-type threads have been resurrected versions of older threads, presumably to get some mindshare from the Bakers about attacking some long-standing bugs. Also, a lot of the questions are more about how the workflow works than about presumed bugs, and issues people are experiencing are getting a lot more specific.
 
I'd guess part of this is because we're between releases, and when the next release pops, there will be more to talk about. But I also think this means that the emphasis on stability that was going on behind the scenes prior to the January launch, and continuing since then with the updates, is making a significant difference. In any event I'm sure enjoying all the tips, and the threads where people have developed software accessories for SONAR are pretty impressive...I could never figure out how to do that stuff.

I Could not agree more-despite my new/old avatar
 
Things are going fairly well[new laptop-plugin authorization hell] but a 1080p screen and almost[almost] twice the power-i7 4900MQ too many plug in's ain't enough,though truth be told less is best,stability has been good but an Audio Interface,well a big step up,as in RME for latency and driver stability would be great,but my N.I. KA6 is solid but only average latency[though a LOT better than some,on USB] 
 
Sonar is pretty fine here[EXCEPT for PS started 21st May],so yeah discussion seems more about ideas,and techniques,though Iv'e mostly just been reading trying to understand what people are discussing,rather than being able to contribute,as I'm still a novice at 50 years of age,and 4 years exactly with any computer and Sonar.
Bob
 

Kamikaze

John

Susan G
Hi-
 
I think the level of helpfulness here is about the same as always (i.e., very high)! I think the "personality" of the SONAR forum has changed somewhat, though. I wasn't around when the forum hosts were first added and some of the subforums created. I'm not crazy about the tone/content of some of the forum hosts' posts, esp. when they say they like or respect certain members or particularly value their input, yada-yada, or argue ad infinitum a single point to make sure they're seen as "right."  It shouldn't matter whether a host "likes" or "respects" a forum member when they're applying the rules, IMO.
 
Maybe they're in an untenable position as members *and* hosts, but it seems to me they should try to be objective and leave out the subjective stuff, if possible.
 
-Susan

I think you misinterpret the post I made. I know you have taken it out of context. Nor have you considered the outcome.  

That's a bit strong!

Please explain how it is too strong?

Explain how you can know what Susan has considered.

 

John

Susan G
Hi-
 
I think the level of helpfulness here is about the same as always (i.e., very high)! I think the "personality" of the SONAR forum has changed somewhat, though. I wasn't around when the forum hosts were first added and some of the subforums created. I'm not crazy about the tone/content of some of the forum hosts' posts, esp. when they say they like or respect certain members or particularly value their input, yada-yada, or argue ad infinitum a single point to make sure they're seen as "right."  It shouldn't matter whether a host "likes" or "respects" a forum member when they're applying the rules, IMO.
 
Maybe they're in an untenable position as members *and* hosts, but it seems to me they should try to be objective and leave out the subjective stuff, if possible.
 
-Susan

I think you misinterpret the post I made. I know you have taken it out of context. Nor have you considered the outcome.  

John-
 
I didn't single out anyone and I don't even know what post of yours you're referring to, so I couldn't have misinterpreted it or taken it out of context, let alone "considered the outcome," whatever that means.
 
-Susan

Kamikaze
Explain how you can know what Susan has considered.

Good point!
 
-Susan

Kamikaze
Seems clear to me John what he was saying. He read all, not just the OP post, and feels that vibe of the thread is that hosts shouldn't move and judge posts, but let the everyone come to their own conclusions.
 
Where did you get the idea about loosing membership from that?

First off hosts don't move posts. Hosts move threads. That is done when a thread is started in the wrong forum. It is a basic job of hosts to do that. Also he says he read almost all the posts not all. I don't know what he didn't read. Not that matters to any degree. I saw no criticism of posts by anyone except perhaps me. Perhaps I missed one or two but had posted early in this thread and I tried to keep current by reading all the posts. If there was criticism it was by me in the form of not taking the thread off topic. Again that is a part of hosts duties.
 
I guess members are unaware of just what we as hosts are charged with doing.  I take it as a duty. My most important duty is to try to the best of my ability to keep threads peaceful and civil.  Often times a word will do the trick. And that is the end of it. 
 
If I seem to overreact it is because I try to head off trouble before it starts. I much rather have people focus on me than they attack one another. I can take the heat.
 
Clearly we both have a very different take on that post. I see it one way you see another. Its not a question of right or wrong its a question of interpretation.  I hope this explains things well enough.