subtlearts
tomahto

correct

Yes, I've noticed a shi...  Oh, wait, nevermind. I misread "Shift".

I feel the Shift in the forum: Craig has used his "Host power" to shift "Coffee House" to "Sonar"

subtlearts
 
You say tomato, I say tomato... hmmm, that doesn't work as well in print, does it?

  That tickled me..
 
Thank You.
 
Anyhow - OT - plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose..

vintagevibe
 
Has subtlearts just insulted the forum or is he giving useful opinions?

 
Subtlearts contributes to this forum on multiple levels, and even when critical, does so in a constructive way intended to help the community. Therefore I respect his opinions, and consider them useful. He does not make public statements that he switched to Cubase, and then take advantage of the free an open nature of this forum to insult the entire forum by saying that it is defined as "People trying to solve problems, give or ask for information in a sea of highschool [sic] drama."
 
I started this thread to give props to those who contributed by narrowing down bugs, providing tips and techniques that benefit all, being specific in their attempts to isolate problems, and contributing code that would benefit the entire community. Yet you felt it was necessary to derail that by pushing your agenda notation - even though there was already a notation complaint thread in which you had posted your opinion 39 times. Isn't that enough opportunities to complain, without bringing your complaints into a totally unrelated thread?
 
Go enjoy Cubase (especially the great job they did on updating my Quadrafuzz  - Carlos, you did good!), and since you feel this is a sea of highschool drama, you can avoid it completely by a) not participating, and b) not contributing your own high school-level drama.
 
My thanks to the people detailed in my opening post remains as valid as ever. Hopefully they will realize how much I appreciate their efforts, accept that I have wanted to defend them, and understand why I need to return to contributing as much as I can to those whose only goal is to make better music with the software they use. There is no need to waste my time on someone who does not respect this community, and claims to have switched to other software anyway.

This thread has to rank in the top 20 of the number of words typed by THE CRAIG.
 
I want the info under the avatars to include the total number of keystrokes contributed to the forums.
 
I am again reassured that THE CRAIG is an alien. IT never sleeps. IT types faster and more words than almost anybody but THE BAPU, wherever IT actually resides.
 
I am amazed and completely reverent to those from not here.
 
All Hail THE CRAIG!
 
 

This is a thread that proves no thread can exist that is meant to praise. It will get sabotaged. It doesn't matter what is being praised only that it is positive and meant to point out the good of things. Some few seem unable to resist the urge to bring any happy posting to its knees. 
 
Its not a case of being half empty. Its a case of if its not my glass being filled I wont let anyone else bask in the light of happiness. Its they that can't let others feel fulfillment or contentment as long as they see their glass as parched and empty. 
 
 

Anderton
 
Subtlearts contributes to this forum on multiple levels, and even when critical, does so in a constructive way intended to help the community. Therefore I respect his opinions, and consider them useful. He does not make public statements that he switched to Cubase, and then take advantage of the free an open nature of this forum to insult the entire forum by saying that it is defined as "People trying to solve problems, give or ask for information in a sea of highschool [sic] drama."
 

 
I've used Cakewalk/Sonar since 1992.  Probably far longer than you have.  I've updated virtually every time.  I've purchased other software from Cakewalk.  I used to manage a computer superstore in which I brought the Cakewalk line of products in to sale.  I've spent years being a loud advocate of Cakewalk software. I was on this forum since it was a news group and it wasn't always like this.  Most people here don't even know what a news group is.  I've been as loyal a user of Cakewalk/Sonar as anyone here.  None of that matter if I have complaints.  You have no idea how much I use Sonar.  I have to use Cubase because Sonar dropped the ball on notation and stability but I have hundreds of Sonar files that I still use.  
 
And yet you think I shouldn't be here.  You don't want me to express my opinion.  You think "highschool drama" is insulting when I use it but not others.  You have no problem when others on this forum insult me using foul language.  That's OK but my opinions about this forum and notation make you angry because I keep expressing them.  Well then I guess that is the new with-us-or-against-us forum and you've heartily joined the club.  But of course you get paid to.
 
 

Thought better of it.

Anderton
I don't think the personalities of the hosts have changed much, if at all, since becoming hosts and because they are members, they continue to post like they did as members. Comments about liking or respecting someone were present before there were hosts.

Hi Craig-
 
If you read my post again, you'll see I didn't say the "personalities of the hosts have changed."  I said "I think the 'personality' of the SONAR forum has changed somewhat."  Those are two different things.  It's one thing when "regular" members talk about liking or respecting someone and/or their comments (and I realize that happened before there were hosts,) but it's another when forum hosts do, since they do have, after all, a different status. There didn't use to be regular members who could move or lock threads or whose opinion about whether a posted opinion was valid or not carried more weight than someone else's. I feel like that's changed with the introduction of forum hosts. It used to be just "the Internet as usual," and things would sort themselves out--the good, the bad and the ugly--and I preferred that, to be honest.
 
Thanks-
 
-Susan