No one used foul language. "douchebag"(which i abbreviated to d-bag) is not nice but hardly foul language. I was admonished and agreed not to go there again. Thus, continuing to bring it up is pointless deflection. It is ironic that you are fixated on insults to you, yet you have no issue insulting others. How do you know what most users know? Do you have anything close to a provable ratio figure of members here who know what a newsgroup is? Yet you throw stuff like this out as if it's fact when it conjecture at best.

Everyone is entitled to opinion, but there is something kind of off when a person continually uses this freedom to consistently hijack threads meant to be positive to disrupt despite having pages and pages of the dame gripes in threads dedicated to the same gripe. Combative posts are going to invite combative replies and yes, the moment you enter a positive thread for the sole purpose of complaining and to continually proclaim your percieved superiority of another product, you placed yourself in a combative position.

The "best answer" (IMO) to this thread was inadvertently dropped in another - condescending.
 
So many threads break down into this as of late (if people have any restraint), but some come right out of the chute on that foot with the thread title/OP. Then it becomes some childish competition to see who can dredge up the most dirt/BS (foul language *intended*) to validate their (often irrelevant) point. The "Holier than Thou" mentality is not decorum I expect in ANYTHING "professional" (in any industry), so those who step up to the plate with this attitude must realizes it implies the exact opposite. My reaction has always been intense sarcasm (usually to divert elsewhere), but even that still fuels some to jump back into this fray (some have predetermined this path for themselves, and there is no stopping them).
 
Food for thought anyway... I was trying not to post to this thread (since the truth often hurts), but realized that I inadvertently commented from my phone and am now "linked" to it anyway (ugh, the ironies in life). At least I got that off my chest
 
 

Calling occupants...

Compared to other music technology forums I've experienced, the Sonar Forum has a fantastic group of guys and gals.  I think we notice the <1% of annoying people because they stand out so much from the others.
 
I won't name the other forums, but they have a *lot* more condescending and unhelpful people. (MusicLab is not bad, though, although most of the help comes from the MusicLab staff.)

I love this forum. Gold has been and continues to be posted in this place and I've profited greatly from it, even (and sometimes particularly) from the more dramatic posts. I don't post much, but when I have something that isn't already burned into the DNA of everyone here I will do so.
 
The key is quantity, imho. The more posts there are in a given thread, the more likely it is that one will contain what I'm looking for.
 
Kevin

kevinwal
I love this forum. Gold has been and continues to be posted in this place and I've profited greatly from it, even (and sometimes particularly) from the more dramatic posts. I don't post much, but when I have something that isn't already burned into the DNA of everyone here I will do so.
 
The key is quantity, imho. The more posts there are in a given thread, the more likely it is that one will contain what I'm looking for.
 
Kevin

Its posts like this that mean so much to the contributors. Its why I believe Craig started this thread. To thank those that do so much for their fellow users. 

I find the vast majority of this forum to be useful.  Any particular issue may not apply to me at the time but I will read many of the threads anyway, just in case or for future reference.  On those occasions when I start a thread asking for help or input I am always delightfully surprised at how quickly I get useful replies and how valuable they are.  
 
You can usually tell just from a thread title if it is truly a request for help or merely someone seizing an opportunity to rant/vent/whine.  I usually skip those threads unless I am looking for entertainment and amusement (or for a reason to procrastinate).  I have never seen one of those threads where the OP eventually gets convinced of anything other than the position they started out with.  In fact, the stronger or more numerous the arguments in opposition to the OP, the more they will dig in. I am a little awed when so many people will continue to thrust away to so little effect. I can understand one or two attempts to present a rational alternative point of view but it usually becomes quickly apparent that it is an exercise in futility.

John

Its posts like this that mean so much to the contributors. Its why I believe Craig started this thread. To thank those that do so much for their fellow users. 

Aw, shucks. :)
 
I had a real hair-puller the other day. One of my midi tracks wouldn't record no matter what I tried, and only in that project. I could hear the instrument when I monitored it but no recording. I searched this forum and found the improbable solution; I had inadvertently created a zero-length punch in/out section on the track. I would never have thought of that, but someone here had! So thank you to all of you contributors who help me get this software to do its magic.

I have to say that I frequently find concise, exactly-what-I'm-looking-for solutions to problems on this forum via a google search - often for issues that are not directly Sonar-related. This means that I'm searching for some solution to a strange problem and the answer could be on any music tech forum, whether general or product-specific - wherever google determines the best answer to be. And many times, probably at least as often as not, the answer that solves my problem ends up being here - sometimes in an old thread, sometimes a newer one. I think that says something about how genuinely helpful a place it frequently is.

You gotta love it. I marked it helpful...
 
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