• SONAR
  • I Guess Cakewalk Doesn't Know What The Word "GAIN" Means....
2015/05/20 16:28:50
AdamGrossmanLG
My clear BUG got filed as a stupid feature request and labeled "product working as intended"....


http://www.cakewalk.com/S...il=alewgro%40gmail.com
2015/05/20 16:44:09
brundlefly
Toljaso: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3221072
 
Does this thread have a point other than to raise a (yet another) stink on the main forum? 
2015/05/20 16:46:41
AdamGrossmanLG
brundlefly
Toljaso: http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3221072
 
Does this thread have a point other than to raise a (yet another) stink on the main forum? 




I believe it is justified.   Let's get the word GAIN defined...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gain
 
 
has nothing to do with MIDI note velocity or even MIDI Channel 7 volume information....   GAIN should adjust GAIN on the AUDIO channel, no?
 
 
sometimes a "stink" has a point and is fully justified.
2015/05/20 16:50:46
mettelus
Bear in mind that a Simple Instrument Track is an "odd duck" in that it takes MIDI input, but outputs audio. The "track data" is MIDI, so I would expect the track inspector to tinker with the track contents. I associate (audio) gain with "fader."
 
Not to add fuel to the fire, but probably did anyway.
2015/05/20 16:53:00
AdamGrossmanLG
Well a Simple Instrument track really is a combo of MIDI+AUDIO.  The prochannel is available, hence you CAN adjust audio settings on a Simple Instrument track, but let's face it - we don't need a CC dial which edits velocity or volume control through MIDI CC... if it's labeled "GAIN", let it be the GAIN just as if the synth track was separated from the MIDI track.
 
The dial SAYS "Gain"!!!!!   SO BE GAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2015/05/20 16:56:28
lfm
 
You can set the velocity adjust Vel+ knob in inspector.
2015/05/20 17:04:43
BobF
IMO, the association is and should be closely related to the position in the flow.  The 'Gain' knob is at the input, where MIDI lives in an instrument track.  ProChannel is post instrument, so it's audio.
 
It's really obvious what the function is.  If the range is integral values from -127 thru +127, it's a velocity offset control, or "MIDI Gain".  OTOH, if the range is -18.0 thru +18.0, it's an "Audio Gain" control.
 
And aren't the "Gain" controls on audio tracks really the old "Input Trims"?  There is no audio input in an instrument track, soooooo ...
 
Just sayin' I can see The Pastry Shoppe view on this.  Could there be a better name?  Sure, but is a poorly named control worth the added health care costs down the road?
 
Then again, I don't use simple instrument tracks, so carry on!
 
 
2015/05/20 17:18:09
scook
The label will likely change before the function of the knob. I would suggest looking for another solution to gain staging issues. If the audio gain knob is required, do not use instrument tracks.
2015/05/20 17:18:27
Doktor Avalanche
Well if it's doing MIDI velocity by design (regardless of whether we agree with the behaviour or not) then the bug is that the fader is labelled Gain rather than MIDI velocity and it should be renamed. Maybe you should log another issue pointing to this and the issue you quote above. They can't have it both ways... It wouldn't take much time rename it to what it is to avoid confusion.
 
Nevertheless I think it would take a enhancement request to fulfils this. I think there should be a toggle within the Instrument track to display either MIDI or AUDIO facilities. Maybe another toggle for Summary of both. I suspect that's their way of thinking as well (pure speculation).
 
But I'll be honest
 
a) I wish QA would write more explaining their reasoning when they withdraw an issue.
b) I wish you were able to comment on a problem report after an issue has been withdrawn, at least a few times..  
2015/05/20 17:22:58
AdamGrossmanLG
lfm
 
You can set the velocity adjust Vel+ knob in inspector.




who is wanting to do that?
© 2026 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account