You do still get I hope the bug is the way it is labelled? That's the issue you need to log again.

The other is an enhancement request as you are asking for a change in behaviour (it's already been documented the other way).

QA should have clearly written that when they withdrew the problem report I'm sorry they didn't. That may have avoided this entire thread.

Doktor Avalanche
You do still get I hope the bug is the way it is labelled? That's the issue you need to log again.

The other is an enhancement request as you are asking for a change in behaviour (it's already been documented the other way).

QA should have clearly written that when they withdrew the problem report I'm sorry they didn't. That may have avoided this entire thread.

Sure - I get it is labelled wrong, but honestly - it SHOULD be a Gain Knob.   It makes no sense to have a Vel+ setting there (especially when its GAIN in audio tracks in the same spot).    There are other ways to adjust the velocity trim anyway.   

Imagine if the next version, they replace the volume slider with a slider that controls MIDI Pitch Wheel, but documented that it is MIDI Pitch Wheel.  It would still make no sense, right?

Don't disagree but this how it works in software development. They are very specific. There is a specific label bug suggest you log it perhaps.
 
And like I said earlier it would be great to have a audio/midi toggle within the instrument track(which would flip over the controls) that would clear up a lot of confusion. Maybe that's how they are thinking we don't know, right now instrument tracks are half baked. Enhancements are needed!

Doktor Avalanche
And like I said earlier it would be great to have a audio/midi toggle within the instrument track(which would flip over the controls) that would clear up a lot of confusion.

There are Audio and MIDI tabs in the Inspector for an Instrument track that do exactly that. Audio gain is the only missing control. And, as mentioned earlier, MIDI Volume controls synth output volume, giving the same result - control over the input level to the track.

Absolutely... But it would be nice to cram in more stuff near the "desk" away from Inspector.. which is generally where my eyeballs and fingers focus. A flyout would be nice as well although that might be too OTT.

mettelus

Kamikaze
adjective: condescending

having or showing a feeling of patronizing superiority.

You may have inadvertently hit on the "best answer" to the "Anyone Else Notice a Shift in this Forum?" thread!

Agreed.

I'll take a look at this for a future update. TBH this is the very first time I have even heard of this issue. I agree that when the Audio tab is showing on an instrument track, its counter intuitive that the gain knob to control the track gain rather than the velocity. I'm pretty sure that this wasn't coded that way on purpose so it might have been an oversight when the track inspector for instrument tracks was done.
I'll look into what it takes to get the control to switch what it automates based on the tab. Sometimes what looks trivial on the surface might not be that way, so I can't guarantee a change but I will check it out.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I'll take a look at this for a future update. TBH this is the very first time I have even heard of this issue. I agree that when the Audio tab is showing on an instrument track, its counter intuitive that the gain knob to control the track gain rather than the velocity. I'm pretty sure that this wasn't coded that way on purpose so it might have been an oversight when the track inspector for instrument tracks was done.
I'll look into what it takes to get the control to switch what it automates based on the tab. Sometimes what looks trivial on the surface might not be that way, so I can't guarantee a change but I will check it out.

Thank you Noel.
 
Let me clear things up here - I love the product, obviously - there are plenty of other DAWs I can use out there.  Some say I am out on a mission to nit-pick every single bug.   First off, I think I have only about 3 posts ever with potential bug/problems in the software.   Secondly, I took the time to document, screen shot and write up a Problem Report - only to be told "this is working as expected".   No reason why, no explanation.   

And sure, if you wanted to, anything can be "working as expected".   You can build in MUTE buttons that actually do nothing.. even if they say MUTE - so what, we designed them to be buttons that do NOTHING lol... then say it's "working as expected".
 
Have a volume trim knob there really makes very little sense.  Also being told to not use a Simple Instrument Track also seems nonsense.  It's there for ease of use, so if I have 10 synth tracks, I don't have to see 20!!   They work great except for the "Gain" knob!

I do understand how software works.  I work for a software company - with software there will always be bugs, room for improvement, etc...    no problem, it's just when you are a paying customer, and you bring things up that clearly can be improved - and you get a one-liner back.    
 
I hope that Cakewalk can look into this though, it would be really helpful.   Sometimes my VST synths are too loud coming in and I'd like to turn them down right from the gain knob, instead of from inside the synth. 
 
Thank You,
Adam

thank you, Noel

rezab
thank you, Noel

Ditto many thanks.