• SONAR
  • I Guess Cakewalk Doesn't Know What The Word "GAIN" Means.... (p.6)
2015/05/20 23:47:25
Doktor Avalanche
Well the issue is crystal clear. However the sheer number of people posting here with their differing opinions makes me feel that something should be done about this and soon even if it means just fixing the actual bug (wrong label). Enhancing the instrument track is the ultimate answer though.
2015/05/21 03:53:44
Kamikaze
It's mislabelled. Velocity effects more than volume on anything but the crappiest of synths, it generally effects tone and shape, linked to volume, filters, release etc.
 
If it was controlling midi volume, it would be more accurately named 'gain' than controlling velocity.
 
If it serves a purpose controlling velocity offset, call it that.
 
Lazy response from cake.
 
2015/05/21 04:00:34
Kamikaze


2015/05/21 04:33:14
Aharvey
I have always used the output gain knob on the soft synth itself.Since that is how I do it with all my hardware units.That is why it is there on the soft synth in the first place.
2015/05/21 06:23:55
interpolated

 
2015/05/21 06:36:34
subtlearts
brundlefly
... I think a Simple Instrument track should have Audio Gain on the audio tab in the Inspector, and MIDI Gain on the MIDI tab, but it has MIDI Gain on both.

I agree with this. I was checking this very thing out the other day - before reading this thread - and basically found the control useless as it is - what appears to be a numerical - as opposed to proportional - MIDI velocity offset. Turn it down low enough and the lowest-velocity notes in the track stop sounding at all, as they have an effective velocity of zero. How is that useful? Unless I'm wrong, but that's how it seems to me.
 
And instrument track is a combination of a hidden MIDI track and a hidden audio track. I would prefer to see the Gain knob be an input gain for the audio track, rather than a MIDI offset for the MIDI track. If an input MIDI offset is implemented in the MIDI tab, that would make sense, but not in the Audio tab.
2015/05/21 10:00:22
FCCfirstclass
Just remember:  You do not increase "gain", you actually reduce the loss of the fader.
2015/05/21 10:25:53
AT
Well, that does it.  This means I con't use SONAR at all.  Gain, Volume and Velocity?  I'm so confused.  Not only that, I think I'll delete all my files since my old songs aren't labeled properly.  Thanks guys (and girls!).
 
@
2015/05/21 10:29:43
mudgel
Well in that case there's only one thing left to do!
2015/05/21 10:56:25
AdamGrossmanLG
AT
Well, that does it.  This means I con't use SONAR at all.  Gain, Volume and Velocity?  I'm so confused.  Not only that, I think I'll delete all my files since my old songs aren't labeled properly.  Thanks guys (and girls!).
 
@




what a stupid post.  Are you saying that unless something is of utmost urgency we cant post about it?  I never claimed that this was a HUGE deal, did I?
 
I just think its poor customer service to say something is "working as is" but clearly labeled wrong, and on top of that  - no thought process is being given to exactly WHAT that knob should do.

Right now it is acting as a CC# adjustment knob, which is kinda pointless.
© 2026 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account