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2015/05/11 08:36:27
mudgel
azslow3
Instead of "discovering" what something does, why not simply configure what you want it does?
Paleolithic methods to get staff are a bit outdated in 21 century


Perhaps it's the fact that English is not your native language, but if you don't have anything positive to contribute why make a comment which seems in rather poor taste at the very least. For a contributor who confines himself to dealing with facts this seems rather thoughtless.
2015/05/11 09:08:25
Doktor Avalanche
I found a bug.


In Sonar we have the age old problem (I really wish this got fixed very frustrating !) whereby you can lose your settings in Preferences -> Control Services for whatever reason (often because you didn't have you controller switched on once for instance).
 
When this happens you (more or less) have to repeat the steps all over again in #1, not only in Sonar but in Maschine Controller Editor as well.
2015/05/11 09:08:27
Mesh
Doktor Avalanche
How I got Maschine working as a controller in Sonar.

Open NI Controller Editor. Make sure you Maschine is correctly selected.
Goto Factory Templates dropdown and Select Mackie Control.
Tick Host Transport Control
Exit the App
Start and open Sonar Project.
Preferences-> Midi > Devices. Make sure Maschine Studio In is Ticked.

Preferences-> Midi > Control Services
:
Click the Add New controller service button
Controler Service = VS-700. Input Port = Maschine Studio In. Output Port = None.
Click OK.

You might not get what you expected with the keybindings, but the behaviours is as intended. Check the keybindings in Native Instruments Control Editor for more.
 
If anybody has any further customizations to add to the Controller template please post here!


Thanks Dr. Alex Avalanche!!
2015/05/11 09:18:08
Doktor Avalanche
Thanks... If anybody gets MIDI learn to work for VST synths please let me know how you did it.
 
I'm try to suss out a few things... maybe somebody else may know the answer
 
If I assign controller mode by holding shift plus channel, and then toggle with the lit up arrow buttons I can control the volume (etc) of the first 8 channels of my DAW with the 8 dials, which is pretty awesome! At the moment I can see channels 1 to 8, how can I see channels 9 to 16, 17 to 24 etc? I suspect the answer is no without creating another template in the controller editor software?, or maybe there's a toggle somewhere?

Also I see "Channel 1", "Channel 2" etc. It would be nice to see "Vox" and "Bass" instead taken from Sonar instead but I doubt I can make that happen.
 

 
And above I notice that the select buttons (1 to 8) will select the tracks in my Sonar. But any idea what the other buttons are for? I can read what they say and guess what do they, but how do they work right now in Sonar?
 
Questions questions questions...
2015/05/11 09:23:26
mudgel
Doktor Avalanche
I found a bug.


In Sonar we have the age old problem (I really wish this got fixed very frustrating !) whereby you can lose your settings in Preferences -> Control Services for whatever reason (often because you didn't have you controller switched on once for instance).
 
When this happens you (more or less) have to repeat the steps all over again in #1, not only in Sonar but in Maschine Controller Editor as well.


That's one reason why I power up many of my connected devices simultaneously, including powered speakers, audio device, powered USB hub and MIDI hub. This ensures that by the time I start Sonar, things like Maschine and my Alphatrack are powered up and running. As you mention it's frustrating to keep reconnecting devices. Maybe you could do a similar thing until we get a fix. Or in case we don't get a fix.
Is there a bug report or feature request filed?
2015/05/11 09:50:24
azslow3
mudgel
azslow3
Instead of "discovering" what something does, why not simply configure what you want it does?
Paleolithic methods to get staff are a bit outdated in 21 century

Perhaps it's the fact that English is not your native language, but if you don't have anything positive to contribute why make a comment which seems in rather poor taste at the very least. For a contributor who confines himself to dealing with facts this seems rather thoughtless.

You are right, English is not my native language. I have tried to encode Russian humor with English words, it looks like it does not work as expected. Sorry if my statement can be interpreted wrong.
 
The same meaning in strait sentences. If someone wants fully integrate Machine with Sonar, I am around to help with that. In case the target is to find out which VS-700 functionality can be mapped to Machine controls, I can "throw away" my comments, no problem (and less work) for me.
2015/05/11 10:08:51
Doktor Avalanche
Don't worry - my sense of humour/humor is worse, other people can vouch for that 
2015/05/11 10:10:30
Doktor Avalanche
Doktor Avalanche
I found a bug.


In Sonar we have the age old problem (I really wish this got fixed very frustrating !) whereby you can lose your settings in Preferences -> Control Services for whatever reason (often because you didn't have you controller switched on once for instance).
 
When this happens you (more or less) have to repeat the steps all over again in #1, not only in Sonar but in Maschine Controller Editor as well.

 
mudgel
That's one reason why I power up many of my connected devices simultaneously, including powered speakers, audio device, powered USB hub and MIDI hub. This ensures that by the time I start Sonar, things like Maschine and my Alphatrack are powered up and running. As you mention it's frustrating to keep reconnecting devices. Maybe you could do a similar thing until we get a fix. Or in case we don't get a fix.
Is there a bug report or feature request filed?



I don't remember anybody coming up with a CWBRN number, I could be wrong. Cakewalk must be aware... I will go and log one and visit the problem reports forums.
2015/05/11 10:49:46
mudgel
azslow3
mudgel
azslow3
Instead of "discovering" what something does, why not simply configure what you want it does?
Paleolithic methods to get staff are a bit outdated in 21 century

Perhaps it's the fact that English is not your native language, but if you don't have anything positive to contribute why make a comment which seems in rather poor taste at the very least. For a contributor who confines himself to dealing with facts this seems rather thoughtless.

You are right, English is not my native language. I have tried to encode Russian humor with English words, it looks like it does not work as expected. Sorry if my statement can be interpreted wrong.
 
The same meaning in strait sentences. If someone wants fully integrate Machine with Sonar, I am around to help with that. In case the target is to find our which VS-700 functionality can be mapped to Machine controls, I can "throw away" my comments, no problem (and less work) for me.


Thanks for your reply. It's difficult enough to convey meaning between persons of the same language when text is the medium, add translation from another language and it can be complex indeed. I sure appreciate you taking my comment in the spirit in which I meant it. That is, educative not judgemental.
2015/05/14 09:23:50
Doktor Avalanche
Back to original topic..

I'm posting this video as an excellent reference. You will still need to follow instructions in #1 first. I haven't had a go at a custom template yet...
https://youtu.be/8XzZfcuf_zU

Also pasting this here as it might shed light on pad mode:
https://youtu.be/lnP1RM788Z4
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