Hey all,

This problem has been very frustrating and I've searched the forum for possible related topics and didn't come across much. Here's the deal. I pick a preset that I like in Pentagon, like "ana bass 01 (vel) BT". Then I tweak anything on it, like volume, some oscillator settings, filter cutoffs, etc. I proceed to save the tweaked preset as a differently named patch, something like "my-ana-tweaked-bass". Then I even save the whole session, not just the plugin patch. I close Sonar and restart it, opening my file. I go to the Pentagon synth, select 'my-ana-tweaked-bass' and it just loads the default "ana bass 01 (vel) BT" without my tweaks to it!

Funny thing is, for a split second right after I load my tweaked patch, I see its correct settings appear (all the knobs snap into the positions i saved them in), and then almost instantly they snap to the default positions of the original preset that my patch was based off. Anyone have any ideas on why this problem is happening?

Thanks,
Stan.

anyone?

Stan, You might want to kick this over to the instruments forum where Rene' (Pentagon author) hangs out. I 'm interesed in the answer as well. Pentagon is the best analog emulation software synth that I've ever heard. I'm surprised that it is overlooked by so many.

Maybe you're sending a program change at the start of the song track using Pentagon?
You should disable them, if not Pentagon will revert to the original preset when playing the track.

What do you mean by a program change, mabian?

I don't have sonar here but..in the track property (left side of track view) you can set the synth bank and preset.

You should reset them, because if you give them a value the bank and preset change will be sent to the synth
each time the song plays.
So, after loading the song and before playing, reset those values; Pentagon should mantain its settings from then on.

In the TRACK header area, set the MIDI channel to NONE and don't have any bank/patch selected there.
THen Sonar will load the 'saved' settings for the synth.

ORIGINAL: stanvoid

What do you mean by a program change, mabian?

This seems to be an old thread, but I see that with my Sonar X3 today is the same problem.

1. I create any project and insert Pentagon.
   
   
2. I make many adjustments to some preset in Pentagon.
   
   
3. I saved the project.
4. When I open the project again, no adjustment was saved.
   
   

I have no indication in midi channel, patch or bank.
Could someone do a test and see if it is the same?

If you are saying you can reproduce what was stated in this really old thread then the chances are nothing has changed. Pentagon is legacy and there won't be any bug fixes for it in future sorry.

Workaround: Save the patch as an .fxb file in your project folder, then call it up when you open the project.