Not that it has anything to do with OS's but in our own little microcosm we have seen how popular user hacks can be with Duckbar. I don't personal use it but it sure makes a lot of people happy.
 
And that's with closed code. With all the programmers and tweakers we have around here imagine all the nutty things that could happen if the Baker's actually gave us a sandbox version to play with.

I reject the entire premise of this thread. Microsoft did not follow Cakewalk with its new Win 10 scheme. Cakewalk did not give away Sonar 2015 to all that use X2 and X3. That derails the entire topic. 

Ampfixer wins 

More info, in case anyone cares...
 
http://www.serverwatch.com/server-news/server-market-continues-to-decline-in-2013.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/linux-windows-microsoft-android-ios,20220.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

BobF
Back to Win10 for 7 & 8 users ... did I dream this, or is there some fine print somewhere that says the 10 box will be req'd to take auto updates?
 
 

I recall reading that somewhere too.

Beepster
With Windows or OSx or even Linux distros like Ubuntu that are intended to "do it all" and mimic those other OS's it has a million and one things going on. It is always ready and waiting to handle whatever you throw at it. Which is great for multitasking.
 
But it also takes a lot more resources, causes a lot more potential conflicts and interruptions and is just generally unnecessary if all you want to do is ONE specific task.
 
 

 
So when is the iDaw coming on market?
It probably never will - we will rather see hardware assisted tasks, like UAD, SoundGrid and Avid HD stuff to target the bottlenecks - even for iPads.
 
From the days I was managing Novell network servers and compared to Windows servers - Windows was a joke really, so much overhead and not much power on the network cables at all. Novell was such well written optimized code for that task - Windows just a personal computer put as a common resource. Into 2000's I could run Novell server with an old 386 chipped computer before it started to be overloaded by requests. And Novell had very well integrated undelete systems that worked on all files, not this joke that recycle bin still is.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing such an optimized daw that just works - expandable with just network connections.
Don't know if companies specializing in building daws remove the 90% of services and crap not needed - or even they are allowed to by Microsoft/Apple. Once removed, the next update will probably put it all in action again.

Its not that anyone copied anyone else. It is a concept who's time has come and most smart companies have concluded that the days of monolithic software development are numbered and are adopting a more agile strategy. 
I met with some MS folks at NAMM and they were quite interested in us switching to our membership based program and had some questions about it. 
I think its a pretty positive thing for them to do and like our program it will be a win-win for them and their customers. The way I read it it seems like the Windows OS itself will be free going forward which is great for most users. My guess is what will possibly be subscription fee based is stuff like Office 365 and other enterprise based tools that will come in the future. I highly doubt that they will ever deactivate the core Windows OS.
 
Overall I think this is a great idea. Free Windows means more OEM's will adopt it now. It will do away with piracy of Windows and ensure that people have a stable platform since they will be releasing updates on a smaller scale and therefore potentially more frequent - just like us. Not sure how they will handle the higher end enterprise sku's and whether that will also be free.
 
Looks pretty good to me.

lfm

Beepster
With Windows or OSx or even Linux distros like Ubuntu that are intended to "do it all" and mimic those other OS's it has a million and one things going on. It is always ready and waiting to handle whatever you throw at it. Which is great for multitasking.
 
But it also takes a lot more resources, causes a lot more potential conflicts and interruptions and is just generally unnecessary if all you want to do is ONE specific task.
 
 

 
So when is the iDaw coming on market?
It probably never will - we will rather see hardware assisted tasks, like UAD, SoundGrid and Avid HD stuff to target the bottlenecks - even for iPads.
 
From the days I was managing Novell network servers and compared to Windows servers - Windows was a joke really, so much overhead and not much power on the network cables at all. Novell was such well written optimized code for that task - Windows just a personal computer put as a common resource. Into 2000's I could run Novell server with an old 386 chipped computer before it started to be overloaded by requests. And Novell had very well integrated undelete systems that worked on all files, not this joke that recycle bin still is.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing such an optimized daw that just works - expandable with just network connections.
Don't know if companies specializing in building daws remove the 90% of services and crap not needed - or even they are allowed to by Microsoft/Apple. Once removed, the next update will probably put it all in action again.

 
I was a Novell CNE long ago as well before I was an MCSE. Novel was much more effecient but MS had the marketing so.....
 

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I think its a pretty positive thing for them to do and like our program it will be a win-win for them and their customers. The way I read it it seems like the Windows OS itself will be free going forward which is great for most users. My guess is what will possibly be subscription fee based is stuff like Office 365 and other enterprise based tools that will come in the future. I highly doubt that they will ever deactivate the core Windows OS.
 
Overall I think this is a great idea. Free Windows means more OEM's will adopt it now. It will do away with piracy of Windows and ensure that people have a stable platform since they will be releasing updates on a smaller scale and therefore potentially more frequent - just like us. Not sure how they will handle the higher end enterprise sku's and whether that will also be free.
 
Looks pretty good to me.

It's just this thing about Windows - Microsoft has been fined multiple times in Europe overusing their position on the market. Any other MS product maybe, but the OS - if they violate their positon again they will be taken to court, no doubt.
 
In principle MS could do what Avid do now, trying to use it's position to dictate any terms.
It's a bit problematic already, you buy a new computer with the same OEM Windows version for the same money MS ask just for upgrading your XP or whatever. I don't know if it changed in recent years, but that was the case I last bought a computer, 2010.
 
Besides, Vista and Windows 8 - nobody wanted those. If MS do tiny steps updating OS that is changing our daws, just creating issues - look at updates of Mac that need constant fixes in software it seems - I would seriously start looking for something else - else than Windows and obviously else than Sonar.

Tom Riggs
 
 
I was a Novell CNE long ago as well before I was an MCSE. Novel was much more effecient but MS had the marketing so.....
 

Sun Microsystems and Oracle that bought Novell if I remember correct, no tiny players those...
 
Some collegues I talked to were thrilled about the graphic interface of Windows servers managing it - if that is part of it. Novel were old command prompts basically.