• SONAR
  • Dorchester: Some VSTi may force project to read as "changed" as soon as opened.
2015/05/01 11:08:51
stickman393
I've just downloaded and installed the Dorchester update. 
 
The first thing I notice is that when I open my project, it is *instantly* marked as "changed" by the asterisk in the file name in the title bar. When I close SONAR, I am prompted to save changes, where no changes have been made by me.
 
I remember this being an issue with VST plugins some versions back, (this one?) but I haven't seen it in SONAR for a while. Certainly not in SONAR 2015 until now.
It's annoying but not the end of the world. 
 
Anyone else noticed this, or is it just me?
 
Update: The culprit was MiniMogueVA. A fix in Dorchester now uncovers deficiencies in this venerable VSTi. 
2015/05/01 11:35:07
gustabo
Not noticing it here.
Is this happening in all projects or just one?
2015/05/01 11:49:05
icontakt
Not happening here, either.
2015/05/01 12:33:19
stickman393
Huh, interesting. I'll do more research on this. Thanks.
2015/05/01 12:40:41
Doktor Avalanche
Remove the plugin causing it.
2015/05/01 13:00:58
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
stickman393
Huh, interesting. I'll do more research on this. Thanks.




If it still happens, I would go and check VST synths first because these have been addressed in Dorchester ... maybe one of them adjusts settings internally upon initialization ...
2015/05/01 13:50:48
stickman393
Oh, I'm sure it's related to this specific bug fix in Dorchester:
  • Making Soft Synth changes now mark projects as edited
so it will be one of the VSTs: Arturia;s CS80v or GSi's VB3 or Modartt's Pianoteq, or god knows which one. I'll have to experiment.
2015/05/01 13:53:24
lfm
Not happened here either.
 
Generally a bit the other way - doing changes that make plugin show "*" as parameters are changed, but Sonar not. It happends I close Sonar without this being saved - my own fault mostly, so always save before exiting.
 
I guess it's a bit tricky since automation also may change parameters - if anything in VST specs that says dirty parameters to host, it's hard to know what.
2015/05/01 14:19:11
Grem
Not seeing it here either.
2015/05/02 13:50:31
stickman393
I reduced this to a simple project containing an instance of MiniMogueVA:
  • Create new project
  • Insert instance of MiniMogueVA, selecting to create tracks "1st Synth Output" and "MIDI Track".
  • Close the synth UI
  • save the project
  • Wait for a few seconds
  • Observe the "dirty" flag being set as the asterisk appears in the file name in the main window title bar
I'm pretty sure that MiniMogueVA is no longer being actively developed or maintained, so if this is a bug in the VSTi I don't hold out much hope for a fix.
And it didn't happen with "Cambridge" and earlier releases.
I'm going to try reporting this as a bug through normal channels.
 
Problem Report: CWBRN-32835
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