• SONAR
  • Dorchester much more unstable than Cambridge.
2015/05/04 05:04:31
LJB
My observation, as an 8+ hour per day, 7 days a week professional user of Sonar Platinum is this is going backwards fast. Struggling to open projects, plugins crashing, PC channel not recalling presets. No gentlemen, this will not do. You can blame all kinds of things, but the DAW has to be MORE stable with every new release, and it's not.
 
Please fix it.
 
Sincerely, your loyal user.
2015/05/04 06:16:25
Sanderxpander
Crap, I just installed Dorchester after skipping Cambridge because of the bug reports. I agree, stability is paramount. I hope the next release focuses on that.
2015/05/04 06:33:11
lfm
It's easy to see the need to let off some steam...but did you provide useful info for Cakewalk to narrow down.
 
Like providing the smallest issue project as a bundle file to Cake, or something.
a) is project created in Platinum or other version
b) have mix recall been used
 
I've seen Sonar(starting without any project) just freeze kind of for 20-30s or so before continuing.
I see a correlation having been online last startup - and if it has to do with trying to look for updates or something. I don't know why they bother having this done that way, if that is the issue - waiting to timeout on something. But speculation on my part.
2015/05/04 06:40:46
mudgel
I can't put my finger on it. The previous releases have all been crisp and snappy. Some folks have had issues with installation, but, generally I've been pretty happy until Dorchester. Like I said, I can't put my finger on it but there is something glitchy about it, some screen stuff, projects taking a good bit longer to load, windows on 2 nd monitor causing problems, browser window not opening properly at times and issues with the Multidock.

All intermittent. I can only describe it as glitchy. I rolled back to Cambridge to try a few thing out and its definitely better but I'm back on Dorchester at the moment. Not sure for how long.
2015/05/04 09:21:36
Fabio Rubato
Crisp and snappy it ain't! X3 is, Plt is bloated from my end and I can make a coffee by the time it loads a project...seems even slower now after Dorchester. Plt continues to crash. I wanted to add an audio track to a project yesterday and it crashed twice. Same project okay in X3. Did manage to work on a project all day today though, so it has some redeeming qualities.
 
Agreed: Stability is paramount!
2015/05/04 09:53:06
MANTRASKY
My experience with the upgrades (Dorchester & Cambridge) have had "Crashes?" not many but when you rely on the programs and your dealing with clients that see this (right in front of them) they question weather to continue or go somewhere that's using "ProTools!" I came from the "ProTools HD" and full Mac Pro studio. I'm noticing Stability Issues that has me concern,
 
Hope these "Bugs" get fixed quickly.  
2015/05/04 09:58:52
BobF
No clients looking over my shoulder, with lightweight projects, BUT
 
Bugz are bugz, but S-PlatD combined with my current hardware is VERY stable.  S-Plat has been crisper & snappier than any previous version I've used, including X3e.
2015/05/04 10:00:25
SteveStrummerUK
 
Here's my load time for Dorchester in real time:
 

2015/05/04 10:03:11
lfm
Fabio Rubato
 
Agreed: Stability is paramount!




But that could mean project load is slower - are your throwing each plugin in it's own thread that would be quicker, but may inflict more on stability syncing all threads with one stream of audio.
 
I remember initial bugs in NI Kontakt(if it was v4) that optimized loading by spreading loading of samples over many threads. Later fixed in v4.1.
 
And let's make assumption that you want Mic Recall to be quicker - then there might be more plugins that needs initializing.
 
If looking at CCC, Cakewalk knew they only had limitied time until launch - quickly admitted that more options are needed and it will quickly change with feedback.
 
So it's not that far fetched that also loading of projects, checking out Mix Recalls takes longer right now - and will get some options later on - do we want all mixrecalls to be prepared to load quicker when selected, or do we want initial load of project to be quicker.
 
All remarks may be valid as stated here in this thread - not saying they are not.
Just pointing at some things that might be worth waiting for - stable operation....checking more things initializing every plugin. You have console size to be calculated, due to what is the max number of inserts on every track, new to Platinum....and many more things I can imagine.
2015/05/04 10:09:13
lfm
SteveStrummerUK
 
Here's my load time for Dorchester in real time:
 

 
I think I saw a transparent dialog there at the end.
Did you try turn off transparency in Windows theme?
 
Transparency means all windows covering each other needs to repaint from bottom up - every time a repaint is needed.
No idea, if this is significant on your system - but worth trying.
I just hate it and turn it off for that reason.
 
And I come to think of the 20s-30s delay I encounted some time in between, that I feel might be Sonar checking for updates.
 
Once Sonar is loaded - what is load time then of this project?
 
I can't say this any abnormal - if first startup of computer and a number of sample based libraries are loaded. SuperiorDrummer full bleed, 1.5G, of booted computer takes 10-15s to load on my system.
 
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