• SONAR
  • Dorchester much more unstable than Cambridge. (p.8)
2015/05/05 03:56:03
Fabio Rubato
Keni
Whew!

Nice to have projects of that sort on a machine well setup...

Are they mostly audio recordings or do they contain many soft synths and the like...

I notice that projects using all audio load fast (especially if the waveforms are current in the folder) no matter how many 64bit vst's I use (eq/comp/etc), but as soon as I start adding softsynths (even frozen), the load times increase dramatically...

Keni

Yes, I've noticed this as well.
2015/05/05 04:04:20
mudgel
I seem to have found my fix. As per post 65.
After 2 hours of continued use I seem to have hit on what's been causing all my weird screen things as none have reoccurred. Just shows how careful to be when changing seemingly simple defaults on Windows can cause problems. I remember I made that change as a trial just before Dorchester came out.
2015/05/05 07:51:25
BobF
mudgel
I seem to have found my fix. As per post 65.
After 2 hours of continued use I seem to have hit on what's been causing all my weird screen things as none have reoccurred. Just shows how careful to be when changing seemingly simple defaults on Windows can cause problems. I remember I made that change as a trial just before Dorchester came out.



*Somebody* at the Bakery should capture what you've uncovered for a "Things to check FAQ" ...
2015/05/05 08:21:55
KPerry
Did you also know (as I found out last week!) that the Ease of Access setting "Prevent windows from being automatically arranged when moved to the edge of the screen" affects SONAR behaviour too?  The default (unchecked) stops SONAR from remembering its size stretched across two desktops...so uncheck it for SONAR to remember window sizes properly (it also causes problems with IE and Live Mail, both of which are written by, oh, yes, Microsoft :-)).
2015/05/05 08:25:34
mudgel
Now that you mention it, when I changed my mouse hover behavior I also checked that box. I must go back and uncheck it. Doh!

Seems like that might be a good troubleshooting tip for the folks that have these glitchy seemingly non specific window issues.
2015/05/05 09:16:03
Anderton
mudgel
Seems like that might be a good troubleshooting tip for the folks that have these glitchy seemingly non specific window issues.



How true, and they'll know it only if they look at this thread...I think BobF's idea of a "things to check" doc is a very good one so observations like your get captured.
2015/05/05 09:45:55
mudgel
Anderton
mudgel
Seems like that might be a good troubleshooting tip for the folks that have these glitchy seemingly non specific window issues.



How true, and they'll know it only if they look at this thread...I think BobF's idea of a "things to check" doc is a very good one so observations like your get captured.

To whom could we send this info, so it might be included in a FAQ if it can be verified as being generally true, not just on my system? Currently I don't seem to have access to PM any of the Cakewalk staff. Even if we could make a sticky thread to which we could add I think over a period of time it could become unwieldy.
The idea is great, how to implement it is another. It would need some Cakewalk involvement. Maybe a troubleshooting Windows tips for Sonar in the FAQs
2015/05/05 10:10:48
pwalpwal
Anderton
mudgel
Seems like that might be a good troubleshooting tip for the folks that have these glitchy seemingly non specific window issues.

How true, and they'll know it only if they look at this thread...I think BobF's idea of a "things to check" doc is a very good one so observations like your get captured.

forum users have been suggesting for literally years that there should be a faq covering the usual things - defrag,  vst scan, disable av, etc etc, asio4all, etc, so personally i'm not getting my hopes up that this will ever materialise in any official form... but hey, prove me wrong!
2015/05/05 10:20:34
Beepster
Yes, please. We definitely could use a DEFINITIVE troubleshooting guide geared SPECIFICALLY for Sonar. Preferably one that even breaks down into common hardware/system configs with sections regarding common plugins and other programs people may have installed (like Anti Viruses or other programs that may disrupt audio streaming).
 
Commission Mr. Roseberry to work with Cake tech support to compile the first edition and make it a living document that gets updated online as the program evolves and new issues/conflicts arise.
 
It could end up being a massive document but it would sure as heck beat having to hunt and peck around the Googles or asking the forum. It would save everyone time and angst and likely reduce the tech support budget so those fellows could focus on more future positive projects.
 
It is quite apparent that the old Sweetwater and other optimization guides are woefully outdated at this point and many of those tweaks do not apply to Sonar (or make things worse).
 
Craig, you have the Baker's ears more than the rest of us. Perhaps if you post a thread asking for user input here and set up some kind of meeting with the appropriate folks to see the viability of such an effort we can get this happening.
 
Heck, I would even pay a modest amount for such a document (like $20). That could be used to pay Mr. Roseberry for his input.
 
Cheers.
 
PS: Also a section on proper data/disk management would be excellent. As in the best way to set up drive configs laid out in plain english as well as ways to CORRECT or reconfig data paths for best performance (in case people add drives or are like me and borked up their paths from the get go). scook seems to know a lot about this so getting him involved would be good too but I would also like Jim's input as well. I'd say 90% of the issues I have are likely related to my HDD set up.
2015/05/05 10:22:34
BobF
EDIT:  Please don't reply here about the FAQ idea.  I'll start a separate, focused thread to see where it goes.
 
I don't remember the exact dates, but sometime in the '00 - '03 I maintained a user contributed FAQ that I updated and sent to *somebody* at Cakewalk that they in turn posted.
 
Around the time of the shift from nntp to forums that all changed ... PA9 to early Sonar time-frame, IIRC.
 
It was something I created on my own and posted in the newsgroup.  I don't think it would be terribly difficult to create/maintain/periodically post updates here.  The biggest challenge to the maintainer is dealing with people not liking the decisions on inclusion of items, dealing with attributions, etc.  IOW, dealing with people
 
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