• SONAR
  • (SOLVED) How do I find hidden events?
2015/05/02 18:24:19
ampfixer
I have a 12 bar drum riff I'm working on but when I listen, the transport plays back 17 bars. That's 12 with drums and 5 with nothing. I am using 6 outs for the drums.
 
I've looked at the event manager for each track and can't find anything, in any track, after the 12 bars. What/where do you think something is hiding?
2015/05/02 19:07:21
jb101
Audio or MIDI?

Automation?

Excuse brevity, replying on phone.
2015/05/02 22:01:07
slartabartfast
Is there anything on any track anywhere except the 5 bars of drums? If another track somewhere is 17 bars, even if it is empty, then the 5 bar drum track will include enough silence to reach the end of the project.
2015/05/03 05:29:46
ampfixer
Only 1 midi track in the project and nothing is visible past the 12 bars. I'm looking at all note and event data and have checked the take lanes as well.
2015/05/03 05:35:15
Bristol_Jonesey
Things to check:
 
Tempo changes
Meter/Key changes
Automation nodes
Hidden tracks
Archived tracks
Bus automation
 
Where does the Now time go when you hit ctrl + end?
2015/05/03 13:43:35
ampfixer
When I press ctrl+end the now time moves to measure 14 and I can find nothing there. So I have a 12 bar midi drum track but Sonar thinks there's 14 bars and plays for 17 bars. Eventually I will figure this out but I have to say it seems way too hard. I could start a new project and be in business in 30 seconds but I'm trying to figure it out in case this happens with a real project that I don't want to walk away from.
2015/05/03 14:17:34
ampfixer
There was a volume envelope that extended beyond the end of the track. I have no idea how it got there because I really never touch things like that when I'm just building tracks. Very strange.
2015/05/03 14:25:26
scook
It is pretty easy to hit the automation lanes button instead of the take lanes button in the track header. This creates a volume envelop. It might be worth a FR to suppress automatic creation of a volume envelops.
2015/05/03 15:08:58
ampfixer
So if I understand you, just looking at the automation lane contents to see if there's anything there can create an envelope? I had a tempo change get inserted early on and was looking for it. I looked everywhere, including automation lanes.
2015/05/03 15:25:03
scook
I believe so, try it.
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