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2015/04/22 08:21:13
LJB
Anyone else having issues closing large projects? In the early days Platinum was super stable, but more and more of my projects hang upon closing. A little worrisome, to say the least..
 
Ludwig
2015/04/22 09:07:42
lfm
The times I had issues in any daw, just as closing project, was due to some plugin that messed up memory.
 
Try the Save copy to(or what it's called) and see if to do with actuall instances in project, or something else.
 
The load project, play back a bar, and close - and see.
Freeze half of synths at a time - and see if different.
If not unfreeze and freeze other half - and see...
 
Using new features like Mix recall - could be a source to trouble if changing a lot of plugins between saved mixes.
2015/04/22 09:45:53
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
LJB
Anyone else having issues closing large projects? In the early days Platinum was super stable, but more and more of my projects hang upon closing. A little worrisome, to say the least..
 
Ludwig




Yes. I seem to be seeing this as well ... closing a project hangs/crashes Platinum and does not release audio driver and thus forces a reboot ...
2015/04/22 09:58:21
BobF
It would be worthwhile to check your system event logs for HD SMART errors ... defrag, etc.
 
It's difficult for me to image software itself becoming less and less stable over time.  It seems logical to me to look at things in the system itself that larger projects would put higher demands on.
 
As early steps anyway.
2015/04/22 10:23:02
LJB
BobF, could it be that Sonar itself is creating those errors somehow? Just wondering..
 And where would I find these logs, if you don't mind elaborating?
2015/04/22 10:26:28
BobF
Not impossible, but if the Sonar code was creating that kind of errors, the expectation is that a very large number of users would be experiencing the problem.
 
I'm not suggesting where the errors are, just places to look to narrow it down.  I mention drives because a year or so ago I had a machine that suffered from a marginal drive.  It was ugly
2015/04/22 10:31:56
LJB
Aha, Drives... Not Drivers. Could be... I run two new Seagate SSHD Hybrids which are great, but anything is possible.
2015/04/22 10:34:42
BobF
LJB
Aha, Drives... Not Drivers. Could be... I run two new Seagate SSHD Hybrids which are great, but anything is possible.




If they're causing problems you should see it in the system event log.
2015/04/22 10:55:50
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
BobF
It's difficult for me to image software itself becoming less and less stable over time.  It seems logical to me to look at things in the system itself that larger projects would put higher demands on.
 



Sonar has definitely become more stable with every release ... still every update has changes which may have side effects (e.g. remember Braintree crashing when trying to open a project that is no longer there???)
 
So I believe this has nothing to do with project size nor disk usage because my projects can be saved without issues, HD were defragged just recently and I have had this happen in new smaller projects ...I save the project, a few minutes later I close the project (no changes made, just started/stopped playback) and Sonar hangs ...
 
To me this seems more like the audio driver is not properly released and since so many of us use different drivers some may see this, so may not
2015/04/22 10:59:21
BobF
I agree on the audio driver too.  My comment about being less stable over time assumed no updates that would potentially cause problems.
 
If you're comparing stability in one version to a version multiple updates later, then things get more complicated.
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