If you are referencing me, brundlefly, that’s just a mear sandbox that my Jeep plays in on most weekends.

I never heard of any of the software you listed

Vlad, I hope you stick around, you're slaying me!!  Endless entertainment for the rest of us donkeys.  Run your Cubase, but stick around.  Pluhleeeze!

michaelhanson
Now if I had the tool box of Bapu, this would all be a mute point. 

michaelhanson
If you are referencing me, brundlefly, that’s just a mear sandbox that my Jeep plays in on most weekends.

No, not aimed at you - just coincidentally posted right after you. I was referring to the OP's ongoing and increasingly preposterous attempts to justify a position that seems to come largely from an emotional place, and is not logically defensible.
 
I had the same 'gut' response when I first saw that the DAW software in which I've invested 30 years and thousands of dollars had become freeware. But after thinking about it, I was able to let go of that emotion, and see that it in no way affects the value of my investment or the ongoing value of the tool to me.
 
I use the software because of what it helps me do, musically, and that is in no way dimished by it being free or by it potentially becoming the composition/recording/producing tool of preference for the great, unwashed masses of non-professional musicians.

Carry on....

CTStump

davehorch

CTStump
I never heard of any of the software you listed

Vlad, I hope you stick around, you're slaying me!!  Endless entertainment for the rest of us donkeys.  Run your Cubase, but stick around.  Pluhleeeze!

That quote is not mine... please fix it or it will be reported. Are you some kinda mind reader or, is it a typo?

Is the forum software playing up re: quote attribution? This isn't the first time someone complain about being misquoted, and I think I've noticed another example of it myself the other day (although didn't dwell on it). 

michaelhanson
Yes, having been around since the early days, I get what you are saying.  I pretty much stopped using the DX and DXi plugs years ago when I went to only 64bit.

 
FWIW the Sonitus plug-ins work in 64-bit systems, I believe without bridging. They weren't recoded for VST, but I do believe they were transformed into true 64-bit plug-ins.
 

Mainly, what I was referencing was all of the ProChannel FX’s that I had grown to love.  I am a huge Prochannel fan. The ProChannel compressors, the EQ, Concrete Limiter, and Console Emulator had all become my favorite work horses and I had gotten to know them real well.  Adaptive Limiter was becoming a go to as well.  So when the rug got pulled out from underneath my beloved Sonar and I was forced to start looking at other options, such as Studio One, I was disappointed that I couldn’t use my favorite tools that had become second nature.

 
Ah yes, I see exactly what you're saying. I also think the ProChannel plug-ins are great. IMHO the QuadCurve EQ is incredibly underrated because it comes "free" with the program. The CA-2A is fabulous but luckily that was ported to VST so we can still use it. I haven't found anything quite like the Concrete Limiter, and I agree there's something special about the Cakewalk Console Emulators. "Losing them" is not an issue with ReWire clients, but the only programs that appeal to me as ReWire clients are Live and Reason. 
 
Opinion time...I don't think it would be hard to turn the ProChannel modules into VSTs. I'm one of those people who likes the ProChannel format, so if they were available in both formats, I'd use them in Sonar with the ProChannel. Softube offered some plug-ins in ProChannel and standard VST format, not just Cakewalk, so it's possible. 
 
Cakewalk didn't really know how to market plug-ins so in the company's previous incarnation, it was decided not to bother trying to sell to users of other DAWs. There were also concerns about support because not all programs follow the VST spec rigorously. Finally, management believed that if the plug-ins were proprietary to Sonar and given away with the program, then more people would buy Sonar. It didn't turn out that way for the reason you stated - people could buy similar plugs for their own DAWs, so they didn't have to buy Sonar. 
 
Maybe with new ownership, the subject of making plug-ins available beyond Sonar will be re-visited at some point. If Cakewalk got a reputation for making great plug-ins, maybe that would pique peoples' interest in Sonar more than making the plug-ins proprietary.

I have VKFX Pro Channel plugs and they work in my other systems. The interface is the same size as when in the PC, but they seem content to float in their tiny windows. So yes, PC plugins can be made to run outside the PC, or Sonar/Cakewalk.

Hey Vlada,
I'll Give You This.
3.5 K Views ...............HECK....
You certainly fired up the Ole Gang.
10 Marks for stirring up the team.
Healthy , Robust discussion is always healthy.
I reckon we ( Sonarians) are going through the same level of  concerns those who suddenly faced the 'Horseless Carriage' went through all those years ago.
So Much Uncertainty.
 
PS: How the heck did our Cakewalk colleagues determine you had a WIX web site ?........( not that I have looked for it OR found it). :)
Cheers .....Frank H

Frank Harvey
PS: How the heck did our Cakewalk colleagues determine you had a WIX web site ?........( not that I have looked for it OR found it). :)

it's in her sig