• SONAR
  • tempo chang and waves pictures (p.2)
2015/04/24 00:00:40
SquireBum
REZA
So what did you do if you wanted export all the tracks for another studio which doesn't work with sonar? 
It is part a professional job to export the tracks properly.



The waveform display is only a part of Sonar and is not included with the exported audio, so there should be no worries.  The DAW application that imports the wave files is responsible for providing the waveform display.  So if the other studio doesn't use Sonar, then the waveforms will display correctly.
 
Hope this helps ease your concerns.
 
Ron
 
2015/04/24 00:47:15
js516
brundlefly
That screenshot is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It appears there are a dozen or more tempo changes per measure in places. Unless some instrument is playing continuous 8th triplets or 16ths through that passage, it isn't necessary to have so many changes.


I disagree. Effects and some synth patches that have elements tied to the tempo are affected. Also its a matter of simplicity. If I want a accel/ret between two points, a straight line the the fastest way to get it done so I can move on to the next spark of creativity and stay motivted. I donot have the time and patience to micromanage tempo on individual notes. That being said, i do think how sonar draws the waveforms is resonable. Bring up the waveform in the loop editor or melodyne works perfectly and if need be zooming in on the track revels the blank portions. Of course zooming is probably what your going to do anyway. :)
2015/04/24 01:29:50
reza
js516
brundlefly
That screenshot is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It appears there are a dozen or more tempo changes per measure in places. Unless some instrument is playing continuous 8th triplets or 16ths through that passage, it isn't necessary to have so many changes.


I disagree. Effects and some synth patches that have elements tied to the tempo are affected. Also its a matter of simplicity. If I want a accel/ret between two points, a straight line the the fastest way to get it done so I can move on to the next spark of creativity and stay motivted. I donot have the time and patience to micromanage tempo on individual notes. That being said, i do think how sonar draws the waveforms is resonable. Bring up the waveform in the loop editor or melodyne works perfectly and if need be zooming in on the track revels the blank portions. Of course zooming is probably what your going to do anyway. :)



I am totally agree with you but I don't understand from the conversations passed why we need to adopt ourself with something that  definitely is fixable? As you said the waveform is fine in melodyne or loop editor so it means there is a bug or something that needs to be fix. :) 
2015/04/24 01:31:19
reza
SquireBum
REZA
So what did you do if you wanted export all the tracks for another studio which doesn't work with sonar? 
It is part a professional job to export the tracks properly.



The waveform display is only a part of Sonar and is not included with the exported audio, so there should be no worries.  The DAW application that imports the wave files is responsible for providing the waveform display.  So if the other studio doesn't use Sonar, then the waveforms will display correctly.
 
Hope this helps ease your concerns.
 
Ron
 


Thanks Ron for your reply. 
2015/04/24 02:13:42
brundlefly
js516
brundlefly
That screenshot is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. It appears there are a dozen or more tempo changes per measure in places. Unless some instrument is playing continuous 8th triplets or 16ths through that passage, it isn't necessary to have so many changes.


I disagree. Effects and some synth patches that have elements tied to the tempo are affected. Also its a matter of simplicity. If I want a accel/ret between two points, a straight line the the fastest way to get it done so I can move on to the next spark of creativity and stay motivted. I donot have the time and patience to micromanage tempo on individual notes. That being said, i do think how sonar draws the waveforms is resonable. Bring up the waveform in the loop editor or melodyne works perfectly and if need be zooming in on the track revels the blank portions. Of course zooming is probably what your going to do anyway. :)


 I can understand wanting to keep things simple when in the throes of creativity, but you can lower the snap resolution to match the note timing, and still draw a simple line or curve without generating more changes than necessary. And I think in the majority of cases, tempo-based effects and patches will also work best when the tempo doesn't change between note-ons. Sure, there are exceptions, but as a rule the fewer changes you can get away with, the better.
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