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  • Creating Internet friendly project files.
2015/04/18 08:28:28
kzmaier
Is there a procedure to reduce the size of a Sonar project for sharing on the internet?
 
Project example has 16 tracks which were imported as single clips.
I use the remove silence feature, very nice.  Checked box create separate clips.  The audio is reduced by ~40% as seen by clips.  (Feature request check box for follow snap settings.)
After save even though audio data is seen as less, the project file/data is still largely unchanged.
I tried saving as either .bun or project??
The Utilities for audio cleanup confuse me.  I just want to cleanup one project to copy to dropbox.
 
Thanks for any feedback.
2015/04/18 11:44:39
brundlefly
Try a zip utility. In my experience, Zip compression is much more effective than whatever .BUN files use. Also, depending on what the goal is, you might want to create a low-bit depth version for sharing.
2015/04/18 11:51:24
tlw
As well as zip try rar compression. Rar files are an open standard like zip and are often better compressed and smaller than zip files. Plus you can add in recovery information in case it gets corrupted.

http://www.rarlab.com
2015/04/18 12:49:50
kzmaier
Thanks I'll try zip/rar compression.  I still wish cakewalk had a project clean up which would work with remove silence.  I understand they are trying to protect users from deleting files shared between projects.  If one checks copy imported files to project folder I assume the risk??  Just my feedback.
2015/04/19 10:00:17
CJaysMusic
Doesn't silence contain no audio? So silence would not contain any significant changes in your projects file size.
Some projects are small and some are big. That's the way we make them. I send files and big projects all the time through the internet with no problems. You should not have any problems eithers. If you are, call your internet provider.
 
CJ
2015/04/19 10:16:26
brundlefly
Recording "silence", as in flatline audio, still uses the full compliment of bits to store the data. Remove Silence splits out and deletes the "silent" parts of clips per your gate settings.
2015/04/20 15:18:50
kzmaier
I think your right Brundlefly.  A silent audio sample is a unit of data.  Perhaps in compressed audio the silence is not a factor in file size (mp3).
 
CJ - I would still like my saved projects to contain only relevant data for transfer and archive.
2015/04/21 04:18:03
mudgel
The silence is relevant data when it comes to an audio file.

The only factors that count as far as the size of the file is not the audio content but length of the total audio file, the bit depth and sample rate and of course the number of tracks of audio, and whether they are stereo or mono.
2015/04/21 08:14:30
lfm
Look for FLAC file options also.
If not available for bundle files, it could be a good option maybe.
2015/04/21 08:34:58
gbowling
Before you upload, create a new directory and save the entire project in this new folder. It will only save what's currently used in the file so it effectively "cleans up" your folder. 
 
If you do that and go look at the size of the old dir vs the new dir, you'll see that the new one is much smaller. 
 
Then you can zip/rar if you like. 
 
gabo
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