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2018/04/13 05:07:50
gmp
I've been using CbB for 4 days and so far am surprised how stable it is compared to Platinum. I would have gotten about 3-4 crashes by now and some that would require a reboot. Has anyone else noticed more stability?
 
IN the Fall when Cakewalk went out of business, I decided to return to the most stable version of Splat which for me was 2017.01. I had an image file that had all the Win updates on that date. I turned off all Win updates so there would be no more variables. 
 
Using V-Vocal I was getting about 3 or so crashes a week with none requiring a reboot. I was getting far more crashes with more current Splat versions. So I'm really surprised that this week using CbB, which is the latest version of Splat with some new bug fixes,  I used V-Vocal a lot this week with only 1 crash, which I was able to reopen Splat right away with no reboot.
 
For testing purposes I'll try about 2 more weeks or so then I'll do all the current Win updates and try that for a few weeks and see if that causes instability. If it doesn't I'll then update my MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface and see how that affects stability.
 
I'd like to know if anyone knows what bug fixes and improvements to stability was done with CbB and if anyone else has noticed stability improvements
2018/04/14 23:54:28
iRelevant
My answer would be no.
 
As a 32-bit man, I've had a crash everyday the last 4 days since install. This didn't happen that frequently in SPLAT. It looks like it is connected to the BitBridge.exe component, and my 32 bit plugs. It's not catastrophic however, as it mainly happens when I'm shutting down or opening the DAW and no work have been lost. I expect it to become more robust going forward. At the moment I'm working on former Sonar VS projects, and becoming a x64 convert is not an option. 
 
Otherwise i feel it has become more responsive and "faster" in the latest release, and the future looks bright. 
 
Edit : May I ask if there is some consensus as to whether the 2017.01 release is the most "stable" release or is this based on your personal experience ? 
 
2018/04/15 00:08:35
noynekker
gmp
I've been using CbB for 4 days and so far am surprised how stable it is compared to Platinum. I would have gotten about 3-4 crashes by now and some that would require a reboot. Has anyone else noticed more stability?
 
IN the Fall when Cakewalk went out of business, I decided to return to the most stable version of Splat which for me was 2017.01. I had an image file that had all the Win updates on that date. I turned off all Win updates so there would be no more variables. 
 
Using V-Vocal I was getting about 3 or so crashes a week with none requiring a reboot. I was getting far more crashes with more current Splat versions. So I'm really surprised that this week using CbB, which is the latest version of Splat with some new bug fixes,  I used V-Vocal a lot this week with only 1 crash, which I was able to reopen Splat right away with no reboot.
 
For testing purposes I'll try about 2 more weeks or so then I'll do all the current Win updates and try that for a few weeks and see if that causes instability. If it doesn't I'll then update my MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface and see how that affects stability.
 
I'd like to know if anyone knows what bug fixes and improvements to stability was done with CbB and if anyone else has noticed stability improvements


I have also found the new Bandlab Cakewalk version to be very stable . . . when I see you mentioning V-Vocal . . . all I can say is I've never found the V-Vocal plugin to be stable in any of the newer Sonar releases, so admittedly when I moved to Melodyne, crashing was less, but caused by different reasons, where there are workarounds.
 
Wasn't V-Vocal in it's prime almost 10 years ago ?
2018/04/15 03:37:09
bitman
Too soon to say here. It seem to work fine, but time will tell more.
2018/04/15 04:16:54
Phoen1xPJ
No crashes yet! Haven't tried V-Vocal but have use Melodyne extensively. Super stable for me!
2018/04/15 04:22:37
gmp
iRelevant
My answer would be no.
 
As a 32-bit man, I've had a crash everyday the last 4 days since install. This didn't happen that frequently in SPLAT. It looks like it is connected to the BitBridge.exe component, and my 32 bit plugs. It's not catastrophic however, as it mainly happens when I'm shutting down or opening the DAW and no work have been lost. I expect it to become more robust going forward. At the moment I'm working on former Sonar VS projects, and becoming a x64 convert is not an option. 
 
Otherwise i feel it has become more responsive and "faster" in the latest release, and the future looks bright. 
 
Edit : May I ask if there is some consensus as to whether the 2017.01 release is the most "stable" release or is this based on your personal experience ? 
 



 
Since you're 32-bit, I have a feeling your experiences are going to be different. I assume you mean you're using 32 bit Splat or CbB. I'm using 64 bit, yet there are some 32 bit soft synths and plugins that I use that are automatically converted using bitbridge.
 
It took me a long time to finally go to 64 bit Splat. It was a painful transition, so I can understand why you're still there. I had to find alternatives to some plugins since not all 32 bit plugins work with bitbridge. I still have a few old 32 bit projects that resurface from time to time. If I load those projects in 64 bit, then I get this screen with tons of missing plugins.
 
As far as a consensus on 2017.01, I';m not sure if others would agree with me. I just found it to be true - so it's personal experience only. But now that CbB is working really well, I'm beginning to wonder if it wasn't Splat but either Win updates or my audio interface software I was using in Jan 2017. Over the next month or 2 I'll find out the answer.
 
My current suspicion is now my MOTU Ultralte AVB software. I love the box but am not at all impressed with MOTU's dedication to serving the PC world. They come from the MAC world and seem to be lacking in PC expertise.

 
2018/04/15 04:33:18
gmp
noynekker
gmp
I've been using CbB for 4 days and so far am surprised how stable it is compared to Platinum. I would have gotten about 3-4 crashes by now and some that would require a reboot. Has anyone else noticed more stability?
 
IN the Fall when Cakewalk went out of business, I decided to return to the most stable version of Splat which for me was 2017.01. I had an image file that had all the Win updates on that date. I turned off all Win updates so there would be no more variables. 
 
Using V-Vocal I was getting about 3 or so crashes a week with none requiring a reboot. I was getting far more crashes with more current Splat versions. So I'm really surprised that this week using CbB, which is the latest version of Splat with some new bug fixes,  I used V-Vocal a lot this week with only 1 crash, which I was able to reopen Splat right away with no reboot.
 
For testing purposes I'll try about 2 more weeks or so then I'll do all the current Win updates and try that for a few weeks and see if that causes instability. If it doesn't I'll then update my MOTU Ultralite AVB audio interface and see how that affects stability.
 
I'd like to know if anyone knows what bug fixes and improvements to stability was done with CbB and if anyone else has noticed stability improvements


I have also found the new Bandlab Cakewalk version to be very stable . . . when I see you mentioning V-Vocal . . . all I can say is I've never found the V-Vocal plugin to be stable in any of the newer Sonar releases, so admittedly when I moved to Melodyne, crashing was less, but caused by different reasons, where there are workarounds.
 
Wasn't V-Vocal in it's prime almost 10 years ago ?





Yes V-Vocal was a Roland product and it's not supported anymore. Actually I've found quite a few workarounds that make it work pretty well. Currently I'm not getting anymore crashes that require a reboot.
 
The crashes now only require me to double click on the CWP file name I was working on and CbB opens up right away. I lose about 10 sec. I have a SSD for my OS and one for my samples, yet I found that if I either disconnect or freeze all soft synths V-Vocal works a heck of a lot better, way more stable.So this is another reason why after a crash I can reopen the project very quickly.
 
I tried Melodyne, but miss several things in V-Vocla so went back to it. One day I'll probably be forced to drop V-Vocal, but for now I'm pleased. 
2018/04/15 07:02:49
stickman393
>> Wasn't V-Vocal in it's prime almost 10 years ago ?
 
So was I, but I'm still here. And I still use V-Vocal. 
2018/04/15 09:32:34
backwoods
stickman393
>> Wasn't V-Vocal in it's prime almost 10 years ago ?
 
So was I, but I'm still here. And I still use V-Vocal. 




Yep. So do I.
2018/04/15 09:56:12
Bristol_Jonesey
backwoods
stickman393
>> Wasn't V-Vocal in it's prime almost 10 years ago ?
 
So was I, but I'm still here. And I still use V-Vocal. 




Yep. So do I.


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