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2015/04/14 18:20:02
yevster
Today, XLN announced they're abolishing the Producer and Solo bundles. The model has reverted to the AD1 system where the base model comes with a set of stock sets that's expandable by AD packs.
 
How does this affect Sonar? Does Sonar Platinum still come with 3 AD-packs of buyer's choosing?
2015/04/14 18:48:58
donbelisle
I tried to buy additional packs last week. I was hit with an additional $80 upgrade to AD2 fee?
So I decided not to buy anything until I see what others are finding out here on the forum.
Here is XLN`s response to my email:
 
Don B. 
"I have Sonar Platinum with AD2, I was trying to buy more add on packs, why do I
have to re-buy AD2 for $79.99 if I already have AD2? "
 
 
 XLN.
"Thanks for recently getting AD2 Producer Bundle which came with your new Sonar
Platinum. The Producer Bundle does not upgrade older AD1 content only the
upgrades we offer through the web shop can do that. The upgrade represents a
great deal of work on our behalf converting over all the AD1 content for use in
the new AD2 engine.

An upgrade to AD2 creates the following content to use in AD2.

Studio Rock ADpak
Studio Pop ADpak
Studio Prog ADpak

Bread'n'Butter Beats MIDIpak
Beats'n'Pieces MIDIpak
AD Legacy MIDIpak

Pearl Masterworks Piccolo Snare Kitpiece Pak

Plus all the ADpaks, MIDIpaks & Kitpiece Paks that you previously bought for
AD1.

We blocked customers that have AD1 stuff and have not bought the upgrade from
getting ADpaks for AD2 because we were concerned that they would go ahead and
purchase items that actually came with the upgrades. Thus they would be
potentially buying stuff twice.

Don't hesitate to get back to me if you need any further assistance.

Wishing you all the very best.  
--------------------------------------- XLN Audio - Support --------------------------------------- "
2015/04/14 19:34:39
yevster
So it looks like they're honoring the bundles that came with Sonar, but if you want more ADPAKS, you have to own the master product (Addictive Drums 2). Before, you could just buy another SOLO or PRODUCER bundle and upgrade those, but looks like those are gone now (JRR still has them, but the prices are yucky).
2015/04/14 19:50:55
Larry Jones
donbelisle
 XLN.
"Thanks for recently getting AD2 Producer Bundle which came with your new Sonar 
Platinum. The Producer Bundle does not upgrade older AD1 content only the 
upgrades we offer through the web shop can do that. The upgrade represents a 
great deal of work on our behalf converting over all the AD1 content for use in 
the new AD2 engine. 

 
I have X3 Producer and Sonar Platinum. I forget what Addictive Drums stuff comes with which version of Sonar, but I seem to have both AD1 and AD2 on my system, plus the basic kits and beats from AD1 as well as the three kits and various beats etc. that came with the XLN Producer/Sonar Platinum bundle, without ever buying anything directly from XLN. I can open and use AD1 and AD2, and all the beats are available to me.
 
I'm going to assume that XLN is not retroactively taking any of this functionality away, although it kind of looks that way from the quoted email. If anything like that happens, I will be quite a bit less addicted to their products.
2015/04/14 20:26:52
RSMCGUITAR
yevster
So it looks like they're honoring the bundles that came with Sonar, but if you want more ADPAKS, you have to own the master product (Addictive Drums 2). 


Maybe I'm wrong here but I feel a little miffed since they advertised AD2 as coming with any adpaks. Now they are saying it is actually it's own program that I now have to buy.
2015/04/14 20:40:39
Doktor Avalanche
Is this the most complicated product on earth? I'm reverting to pots and pans...!
2015/04/14 21:20:41
hockeyjx
Good product. Confusing setup. If you make it difficult for a customer to do business, you won't have a business for long. 
2015/04/14 22:23:17
Keni
Confusing info as well...

I just downloaded and installed my permitted 2nd copy of AD2 and my 3 adpaks over the last 3 nights... So at least prior to today they were still allowing the download....

It's a decent product, though I'm not thrilled with all of it, but he need to make decisions and stand by these or they will Lose customers as well as acquire fewer... There are alternatives...

Keni
2015/04/14 22:58:28
donbelisle
I put their "could have been money" to good use.
I ordered 2 4Terabyte hard drives.
I liked their product, I`m baffeled why they wanna act like that to
those who are willing buy more packs. I guess I didin`t understand Platinum`s
standing with XLN on the whole AD2. But time will change things.
I`ll go back and visit XLN when offers get made for some deals.
 
The Black Velvet kit is one of my favorite goto kits.
2015/04/14 22:59:33
Andrew Rossa
XLN will still honor the Solo and Producer bundles that come with SONAR Professional and Platinum. 
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