• SONAR
  • ACT / CC data - Midi Learn
2015/04/11 11:56:34
markyzno
I'd love to see an update on this very confusing issue in a future command center release.
 
Basically I am the proud owner of a newly acquired Maschine Studio (its awesome)
 
I want to set up Maschine as a controller in Sonar, so far so good with remote control and Midi Learn with the faders in console, mute buttons, all this kinda stuff....
 
But, ACT is far far far too confusing, midi learn won't pick up the transport features or any of the buttons as opposed to pads - basically anything that is CC data rather than a midi key (C1 c2 etc etc)
 
Mackie template in ACT or just ACT controller nor remote control pick up the buttons yet there is clearly a MIDI signal going into Sonar (yes I have all that setup correctly)
 
It would be a nice feature to have an ACT Wizard approach to setting up controllers, OR have a more up to date template list to choose from. The templates in ACT are pretty much out dated.
 
Anyone had any joy with Maschine Studio and Sonar? 
2015/04/11 12:16:53
azslow3
I do not have Maschine, so you get no ready to use solution from me.
 
But you can make the first perfect preset for Maschine with SONAR yourself!
See the link in my signature for details.
 
2015/04/11 12:46:56
markyzno
thats the aim I guess....
2015/04/11 13:35:12
robert_e_bone
I believe this was raised in the past by several (maybe 2?) folks - I have to do a couple of things real quick, but will do some searching to see what I can find on this.
 
Bob Bone
 
2015/04/11 14:00:32
markyzno
Cheers Bob!
2015/04/11 15:31:33
robert_e_bone
Thanks for your patience - I am literally working on 3 different computers at the moment, and have had zero sleep since a day and a half ago - Thursday night.
 
I will do some digging for you, I promise.  :)
 
Bob Bone
 
2015/04/11 15:34:31
markyzno
I would suggest taking more crack. 
 
Bob, seriously any input would be great, take your time.
 
I'll work on some kind of part ACT and part Remote control template for Maschine. 
I downloaded a good one for Traktor so maybe I can look at the data in that and somehow cross pollinate it.
2015/04/11 16:02:19
mettelus
Another option would be to email NI (or even post to their forums) to see if anyone there had made a surface for SONAR. It would seem that someone has already done that and might possibly share it. Would seem a shame to re-invent the wheel if already done.
2015/04/11 16:06:07
markyzno
Been there and done that  
 
No Joy, lots of **** for Ableton Hip Hop folk but none for us Sonar peeps.
 
I have bought a few Maschine templates that I can analyse in Controller editor....
 
For me the frustration is within the ACT/Remote/midi Learn functionality within Sonar. It's not great.
2015/04/11 17:18:47
azslow3
markyzno
For me the frustration is within the ACT/Remote/midi Learn functionality within Sonar. It's not great.

The second (and the last) attempt. I am not spammer.. I just try to help.
 
ACT is mapping between virtual "control X" and "parameter Y" in plug-in, changed when you focus another plug-in to "parameter Z". What is Y and Z are configurable (ACT learn). Nothing more.
 
Remote/MIDI Learn is basic MIDI control, almost historical.
 
Sonar has a concept of Control Surface plug-ins. They are responsible for communication with hardware and performing tasks in Sonar (ACT is just a small part of possible tasks). CW has limited set of such plug-ins. Some hardware producers have product specific plug-ins (Nektar, Novation, Mackie and Roland), just for several devices and partially outdated.
 
CW has 2 generic plug-ins, suitable to use with many devices. But only simple devices are covered. And only small subset of possible operations is allowed to be assigned.
 
The idea was that hardware producers will write own plug-ins for serious devices, the API and the source code is public since long time. It is not about "template" or configuration, it is about real binary program, specially developed for particular device to support CW products. Unfortunately, hardware producers do not see an interest in such development.
 
I have developed universal plug-in, which can be configured by everyone, without programming skills. It is able to work with almost any device communicating throw MIDI. Unlike generic CW plug-ins it support bidirectional communication. It can trigger close to all supported operations in Sonar.
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