I'm using busses to group similar instruments together prior to sending to the Master bus.   I have a problem controlling the reverb.  
My example is like this :
- 3 string libraries, each having a different level of reverb controlled via sends to a Reverb bus.
- the 3 string libraries all got to a "Strings Bus", which then goes to the Master bus.
 
My problem is that if I use the "Strings Bus" level fader to control the overall level of the strings in the overall mix, the reverb level is not affected (as it is controlled via each string library send).   So, if I take the "Strings Bus" volume down to for example zero, I will still hear the reverb.  
 
What I want is to control the overall level of all the strings via one fader, and also the relative level of the reverb.     Is it possible?   If not, how do other people handle this issue?
 
 

I think I would collect all the sends in a pre-Reverb bus and group that bus' volume with the Strings bus.

Aha, have the Reverb send fader grouped with the Strings Bus fader ... sounds a good idea --- I'm not sure though, how I would "collect all the sends in a pre-Reverb bus" - does that mean have a different reverb instance for each group bus (ie one for strings, one for drums etc...), then individual instruments within a group can have different reverb amounts (via send) but the overall reverb level would match the group level ..?

I'm not with access right now...

But here's a few thoughts... Isn't it possible to have a send from the group? If so, send to another bus where you place your reverb, then return the reverb bus to the string bus?

I don't remember if we can do that...

But a simple way might be to place a reverb as an effect on the string bus and set a wet/dry blend . Then everything sent to the buss will be getting a proportionate amount of reverb...

Keni

Hi Keni - thanks for the suggestion.   In my example, I would want to have control of different amounts of reverb for each instrument that goes to the Strings bus - so not the same amount of reverb for the group as a whole.   

All you have to do is route the output of the reverb bus to the string bus. If you're using that reverb bus for tracks other than strings, you may want to think about creating a second reverb bus, so that changing the string bus volume doesn't change the reverb level of those other tracks. Otherwise, you should be good to go.

Let each string library track have it's own sends - since you need individual control.
These sends go to a reverb bus for strings.
The return of this reverb bus  go to strings submix bus.
 
So what you have then is ability to raise submix bus fader and still get the same reverb mix - what is usually handled through VCA groups in some daws. In this manner you don't need that.
 
And if you want to raise reverb individually on a single library you do that as well.
Or group them if you want to move them all.
There are very advanced abilities in Sonar for grouping - if to move by dB or movement etc.

benjaminfrog
All you have to do is route the output of the reverb bus to the string bus. If you're using that reverb bus for tracks other than strings, you may want to think about creating a second reverb bus, so that changing the string bus volume doesn't change the reverb level of those other tracks. Otherwise, you should be good to go.

+1 ... that is what I would do...

Great, thanks for all the input.   I will now make a seperate reverb bus for each of my groups (with instance of the same reverb preset there), and then route the output to its relevant Group Bus rather than the Master.
    

I tested it and it works OK except ... if I have FX on the Strings Bus, they will now also effect the reverb.    I guess I could make a 3rd bus which the unFXd reverb is sent to, and also the Strings Bus is routed through on the way to Master, and have this buss's fader control overall volume of both ... though this sounds like its way to complex ...