Wow... that IS bad and DOES need to be addressed. I think more users are point and click, button pushing knob turners like ME.. who just click the link and trust that good things will happen. I have neither the time nor the inclination to figure out a "Better way" to do something when presented with something like CCC. I am beginning to think that making CCC work for everyone in the most efficient way and make it capable of a fully customizing any installation or update should be a TOP priority. This particular item should be enough to get undivided attention.
Having to download over 1G to get a 40mb file should not be inflicted on the unsuspecting.
IMO...
J

In the past the pdf was created and never updated. If the current version follows that same model, the pdf will be updated at most once a year. While it is excessive to download the tutorials to get the pdf, given the frequency, how bad is it? If on the other hand, the pdf is updated more often, I could see it being an issue.

I agree it's not that big a deal, but it was disrupting to my life for a quarter hour.    And, yes: like not making tiny areas that have to be clicked .. as a general principle, give advance warnings about things that will lock you up for a longish period of time.   (I exaggerated about having to kill my computer, but I DID have to stop the process, and of course the download later began ALL over again (:   )

I am not a fan of dedicated installer programs that automatically do stuff like NI's installer. I am glad Cakewalk left the offline option. If they hadn't I certainly would have been doing some groaning but I think the Baker's realize we're all a finicky bunch and can only get away with so much before a riot breaks out.
 
Perhaps I will come up with a solid, well thought out scheme for handling how the downloads are served up and post a feature request. I had some thoughts about it when first installing Platinum and this has me thinking about it more.
 
Really though I already covered the gist of it. Make sure things are separated as much as possible (but allow for bulk downloads of specific sets of components like it is now), make sure everything has an exact date on when the last time that element was updated (so we can cross reference with when we, the users last downloaded/installed that segment... and I mean retroactively like DimPro would show that it has not been updated for years, loops and patches would be dated so we know what we may or may not have), maybe have an extra option showing what we have downloaded already and when we did it and toss in some Sort and Search options. Still thinking on it but if we are going to get updates every month or so it's going to get very confusing very quickly.

AT
At the very least they should put up a link to a separate SONAR Help files  outside of CCC.
 

Agreed it would be convenient to have local help files as a separate download, but unless I'm misunderstanding what you want, that link already exists with SONAR. When you click on Help, you have access to info on all the new features without having to download anything. See post #3.

jbow
Wow... that IS bad and DOES need to be addressed. I think more users are point and click, button pushing knob turners like ME.. who just click the link and trust that good things will happen.

For the online help files, that's the way it works now...please see previous post. The online help gets more regular updates than the PDF, which as scook pointed out, isn't exactly a living document...
 
The eZine gives the basics, while the online help gives more detail and is updated coincident with the release. 

Reiterating posts that have been scattered about, some people pay for bandwidth discretely and some want to have something to read offline. Perfectly valid.
 
As I am getting the feel more and more that this forum is becoming a "free beta test platform," it is disconcerting when feedback is often initially met with a workaround (as a "solution") or worse, a rationalized excuse as to why users should lower their expectations. The steadfastness of this mindset is the proverbial "train wreck waiting to happen." Something to consider, at least.
 
New SONAR users who do not read these forums are the most disadvantaged, since they are not going to be privy to any of this and simply make assessments based on the program resident on their machine.

mettelus
Reiterating posts that have been scattered about, some people pay for bandwidth discretely and some want to have something to read offline. Perfectly valid.
 
As I am getting the feel more and more that this forum is becoming a "free beta test platform," it is disconcerting when feedback is often initially met with a workaround (as a "solution") or worse, a rationalized excuse as to why users should lower their expectations. The steadfastness of this mindset is the proverbial "train wreck waiting to happen." Something to consider, at least.
 
New SONAR users who do not read these forums are the most disadvantaged, since they are not going to be privy to any of this and simply make assessments based on the program resident on their machine.

The way to avoid being a beta tester is to wait another month before installing it, but still I have to agree at least in part.
 
Software released with workarounds in the readme files should not be released .... period. Of course having a workaround is better than nothing, but it shouldn't happen. Software should just ... install correctly ..  ... that's what we are used to as modern windows users nowadays. We are not all Linux administrators. And this idea that you install software to a different location all of a sudden makes you an advanced user is kind of bogus.
 
If software does not get installed to the correct file paths as stated in the registry then Cakewalk should wait until it is ready before releasing rather than cluttering up our hard drives. I don't mind working around trivial/minor bugs that will be fixed later, but having to play hunt the thimble on checking files to reduce clutter on my hard drive for every release is tiresome. The way I organise my files and folders is very important to me.
 
On the whole this is a good release... But hopefully the penny is dropping now...

I totally agree with posts #17 & #18.
 

Beepster
I am not a fan of dedicated installer programs that automatically do stuff like NI's installer. I am glad Cakewalk left the offline option.

With Ni's service center you can download the installer to the designated folder, and then run the installer manually away from Service Center. You can do exactly the same with CCC.

In addition you can download the patches manually from the NI website which Cakewalk does not do.

So NI Service center  is very similar to CCC, however CCC has far less features right now.