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2015/03/27 18:20:27
jih64
Doktor Avalanche
In addition you can download the patches manually from the NI website which Cakewalk does not do.



You sure about that ? I install everything via Command Center, and also download the individual files for storing away from my user account on the Cakewalk site, perhaps I am just imagining it ?
2015/03/27 18:28:44
Doktor Avalanche
I stand corrected if you can also download the patches from the Cakewalk website as well. So if that's the case it's exactly the same as NI just CCC has less features which will no doubt improve. Why bother downloading the files from the website however when you are also downloading them to a folder via ccc?
2015/03/27 18:34:58
Anderton
Mettelus
As I am getting the feel more and more that this forum is becoming a "free beta test platform," it is disconcerting when feedback is often initially met with a workaround (as a "solution") or worse, a rationalized excuse as to why users should lower their expectations. The steadfastness of this mindset is the proverbial "train wreck waiting to happen." Something to consider, at least.



I don't think anyone is expecting users to lower their expectations. A workaround is not intended to be a solution. Also, there's not a lot of documentation that doesn't have a troubleshooting section...and I wonder how many people actually had to avail themselves of the procedure that was mentioned.
 
The reality is that even if software sits on the shelf and is released eventually as a giant update, there will be bugs. It's likely there will be quite a few bugs that all happen at once. Then there follows several months of patches to fix them all.
 
The scope here is simply smaller. There were a lot of things released but nowhere near as many as a giant yearly update and AFAIC, the number of issues is proportionately small. Also, I'm not sure having multisamples installed outside of a folder (which is fixable) or having a control bar revert to a default are show-stoppers that will keep anyone from making music. Meanwhile, there have been plenty of reports in these forums of installations that worked smoothly, features that work as expected, and general happiness with the way this has all unfolded.
 
Of course there will be issues. I have never met a piece of software that stayed on 1.0 unless the company went out of business shortly thereafter . But you can either change your model to a "rapid response team" and work to perfect that, or keep issuing big, infrequent updates and keep doing patches afterward. Either way, bugs are unavoidable. The question is would you rather have a few features (with a few bugs) happening frequently, or lots of features (and a proportionately larger number of bugs) happening infrequently. 
 
As with the transition to X-series, there will be growing pains but I believe very few people who have proficient with the X-series want to return to SONAR 8.5. I think that as the Membership program gets perfected - remember, this is only month #2 of something that has not been done before by Cakewalk - few people would want to go back to the old model.
 
 
 
 
2015/03/27 18:43:51
jih64
Doktor Avalanche
Why bother downloading the files from the website however when you are also downloading them to a folder via ccc?




Because I can :)
2015/03/27 18:47:16
Doktor Avalanche
Ah of course makes total sense now... I hope you don't have 3G 
2015/03/27 18:50:24
Doktor Avalanche
@Craig agree with everything you say just please get the installers right next time (and fix them), it's just a basic requirement ;). Three issues right now.
 
2015/03/27 18:50:28
jih64
Doktor Avalanche
Ah of course makes total sense now... I hope you don't have 3G 


No, I have a fast connect and a 1 Terabyte Monthly data allowance, and I guess it's just one of my OCD behaviors, just the way I like to do it :)
2015/03/27 18:55:49
Doktor Avalanche
Also Craig #23 - can you correct it please - not my quote :).
2015/03/27 19:30:27
Sanderxpander
What I find worrying is that even if these are minor issues, they add monthly fuss. I can see why CW feels it's nice to work on a continually developing platform, but in the world of DAWs, updating is actually pretty risky business. Features may break, bugs may become exposed, workarounds fail to work. This isn't a smartphone game I'm updating whenever it says "update available". It is part of my core business.

Maybe I'm getting old. I do pretty well at getting around the computer but I want to spend more time making music and less updating stuff. Maybe I'll just skip updates until my year is up and then see if it's worth it. The fact that an update is available doesn't mean I have to do it, which is an important bit of information I tend to forget.
2015/03/27 19:32:49
Anderton
Doktor Avalanche
Also Craig #23 - can you correct it please - not my quote :).



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