Anderton
Well, he says the song wasn't created in SONAR. So he would have needed to transfer it to SONAR to upload it. Why not just upload it without transferring?

Yeah, that seems like the simplest and most elegant solution. Any web browser can upload to Soundcloud.

Kamikaze
I can't see the 'Created by Sonar'. I agree with you that software you pay for, shouldn't then advertise itself, (unless they pay you back for that), and should be an option. I'm just not seeing where it says it on you Soundcloud

Here's what it looks like. I've outlined it in yellow so it's easier to see.
 

I suppose if it said "Uploaded from Sonar" I would not be so offended.   But I created it, using a wide variety of software tools including sonar.    This was a trial upload, using sonar; I've uploaded hundreds of things before without using Sonar.   So ... I know how to do it, was trying a slight shortcut (don't have to transfer it to my usual upload computer).     The other thing that offends me, is somehow, even though I pay Soundcloud, they have let Cakewalk insert an ad, and an ad I can not defeat as far as I can tell,  into MY promotional efforts.   Got a support email in to Soundcloud, we'll see how they respond.

I understand that you want control over how you promote your efforts, but if it bothers you that much, why not just take it down and re-post it without using SONAR? There aren't many views and no comments, so you won't lose anything significant. That will at least take care of your immediate issue while you wait for SoundCloud to address your long-term concerns.
 
That said, I do agree it's unnecessary for that link to be included. However, there may have been some kind of quid pro quo because Cakewalk promotes SoundCloud in their marketing materials.
 

Obviously there are two issues here.
 
 
One is that someone might not like to have an advertisement automatically inserted by an application. That is easily solved by not using the application at all, or by using a kludge to avoid having the advertisement attached if you do use it.
 
The second is the resentment of the questionable ethics and mindset of the application developer who designs this behavior into the product. Most of us would consider this a mark of an adware if not a crapware product, and would give it the disrespect it deserves, even while taking the little extra effort required to do the workaround manually. If Cakewalk does not want to engender that resentment and loss of respect, they can simply not write the crap into the code.
 
 
 
 

I don't really give a rip how he created it, it is lame, bs and troublesome that Sonar inserted something into the file...what other kinds of crap is this program doing? The more and more I see this kind of non-professional bs from the bakers, the more and more inclined I am to take my 15 years of being a faithful Cakewalk user and go somewhere else...this is unprofessional to say the least.

Remember, the SoundCloud direct upload feature was added with X1, and has been pointed out, the link hasn't been updated since then. The company was under different ownership and had a different project manager. When I wanted to use SoundCloud to upload an audio example for Gibson, I asked Cakewalk for a contact and they said they hadn't talked to SoundCloud in years and didn't know who I could talk to.
 
Instead of railing against this on the assumption that some evil person at Cakewalk is currently inserting "crapware" into the program, it might make sense to find out whether anyone - at either Cakewalk or SoundCloud - even knows it's there. It's not on the audio examples in the Cakewalk blog. As far as I know this is the first time this has been brought up since X1 was introduced, so I doubt the issue was on anyone's radar at Cakewalk.
 
Contacting SoundCloud won't be enough. You need to contact Cakewalk as well since presumably, the code is buried somewhere in SONAR.

While I agree with the sentiment in general, it seems to me like the "created with" is an existing tag in the file and was simply filled with "Sonar". I don't really consider that adware although obviously you need to have a setting to turn it off. It's like them filling out the "creation date" box for you.
Or like standard email signatures saying "sent from my iOS/Android device".

The real "crime" here seems to be not having an option to turn it off, which could be a simple oversight.

I appreciate the support, and agree that Cakewalk would/should not intentionally distort my uploads by inserting their own adware.    Am still waiting for a response from Soundcloud, how a "pro unlimited" user like me should have to suffer this indignity.
 

williamcopper
I appreciate the support, and agree that Cakewalk would/should not intentionally distort my uploads by inserting their own adware.    Am still waiting for a response from Soundcloud, how a "pro unlimited" user like me should have to suffer this indignity.
 

Whilst I agree yor point that it shouldn't really be there - it's hardly "plastered"across your page is it - it took me three looks to even see it and using words like "suffer" and "indignity" is more than a little OTT and precious IMHO. It's a minor annoyance at worst, but on the other hand because of this thread your page has probably had far more views/plays than you ever would have gotten without it, so indirectly they did you a favour.