It seems now as if Soundcloud is adding the tag and is doing it for other DAWs too, so I'm not sure you can say Logic and ProTools don't do it (although I haven't checked on SoundCloud). I think it's an exaggeration to say it's like PhotoShop putting a watermark in your pictures though - with PhotoShop, the professional end product is a picture. Them altering the picture would be awful. In this case, the end product is a piece of music and there is a tag in the descriptive information. To put them on the same level, Cakewalk would have to add a "this piece was created with Sonar" piece of AUDIO to the beginning of every song.

As it stands, it seems debatable that Cakewalk really did anything bad at all. Pictures I make with my Nikon D90 are also recognized as such with any photo software. It seems like Soundcloud is merely reading metadata from the file. It's a shame they don't let you delete it (or set it in preferences) though.

Interesting discussion.    Anderton, I'm sorry if I've been rude to you before, but accusing someone of breaking a law is worse than rude.   Be careful, please.   I do not use the product you quoted from, and I'm reasonably sure that my use of everything I use is legal. 
 
Yes, I can and will upload without Sonar.  But the more "features" in a product I have to take time to circumvent, the less the product has value to me. 

looks to me like it's part of the "using soundcloud api from within the app" kind of a deal, though of course us users aren't privvy to that unless someone tells us (unless soundcloud publicly publish their licensing info for this? i haven't bothered looking)

eta cakewalk should be most bothered by the link to x1 product... did no-one notice this since x1?
 

williamcopper
Interesting discussion.    Anderton, I'm sorry if I've been rude to you before, but accusing someone of breaking a law is worse than rude.   Be careful, please.   I do not use the product you quoted from, and I'm reasonably sure that my use of everything I use is legal. 
 
Yes, I can and will upload without Sonar.  But the more "features" in a product I have to take time to circumvent, the less the product has value to me. 

You seem to have completely missed the point Craig made which is that while you appear to be troubled by the inclusion of the wording referencing SONAR, depending on sample libraries you may be using, you may  be required to credit them in any public posting of your audio. Nothing accusatory at all, and i am positive was meant to be helpful. Something i at least hadn't thought about.

craig's post was a distraction, the topic is "uploading to soundcloud from sonar tags my upload with 'made using sonar'"
whether that's down to cakewalk or soundcloud is unclear, but at the very least, sonar users should be made aware of this... maybe it's in the sonar eula, is it?
to suggest random other software eulas require such a tag is utterly irrelevant

Lets try not to shoot the messenger. Craig is only trying to be helpful. 

pwalpwal
craig's post was a distraction, the topic is "uploading to soundcloud from sonar tags my upload with 'made using sonar'"
whether that's down to cakewalk or soundcloud is unclear, but at the very least, sonar users should be made aware of this... maybe it's in the sonar eula, is it?
to suggest random other software eulas require such a tag is utterly irrelevant

Oh please - that level of discussion specificity is an unrealistic expectation of any forum. This is a public forum, a public thread and Craig's comments were completely relevant to the overall thread.

Well, much like most of life, nobody knows much of anything.
 
A OP complains that "made by SONAR" is emblazoned on his SoundCloud song.  I don't blame him for being upset, but rather than blaming the logical idea is it the SoundCloud uploading scheme he blames SONAR.  Blaming SONAR for something bad here brings out a gag reflex in many forum users, which causes the said OP to dig in.  Craig comes along, offers some fact-checked facts and the off-topic remark that certain libraries have to be credited.  My first thought about the latter was he heard the library in the song, but maybe he was just pointing out a similar operation to "made by SONAR."  Either way, he added the facts that it wasn't a SONAR operation, but part of the SOUNDCLOUD uploading process, and may be mostly a SOUNDCLOUD artifact (along with some other comments).  I also learned that Logic and Protools may or may not include the same process and there doesn't seem to be an obvious way to turn it off.  Then Craig gets lambasted as trying to hide his connection w/ Gibson and Cakewalk.  Which is funny.  I forgot to check but I believe his connection w/ Cake/Gibson is in his signature.  I've never found he totes the company line, whatever that may be.  I do think (as we all should) he takes the viability of the company seriously and does consider problems in light of running a business.  Personally, I do have a lot of time and expertise (and money!) invested in SONAR and hope I don't have to start from scratch with another product.  I'd never get any of my own songs finished - for a while anyway. 
 
So, the problem remains that if you use SONAR to upload your songs to SoundCloud you will get the attached message.  Other DAWs may have the same problem.  The simple method to avoid this is to upload your song to SoundCloud outside of the DAW.  I tried to get Sonar to work w/ SoundCloud but it seemed was easier just to manually upload it (I have my own mastering method anyway) since I knew how to do that already.  If you don't want the message, don't use SONAR (or other DAWS) for their convenience.  I've never had SONAR or Sound Forge (or any  DAW) attach a credit to an mp3 file.  But don't give the companies any ideas.
 
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[Edit:  Craig doesn't have his affiliation w/ Cakewalk "plastered" on his sig - my bad.  Still, I imagine most of us here know of it and he certainly doesn't hide it).

Brando

pwalpwal
craig's post was a distraction, the topic is "uploading to soundcloud from sonar tags my upload with 'made using sonar'"
whether that's down to cakewalk or soundcloud is unclear, but at the very least, sonar users should be made aware of this... maybe it's in the sonar eula, is it?
to suggest random other software eulas require such a tag is utterly irrelevant

Oh please - that level of discussion specificity is an unrealistic expectation of any forum.

consider my expectations suitably lowered :-)