pwalpwal

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pwalpwal
craig's post was a distraction, the topic is "uploading to soundcloud from sonar tags my upload with 'made using sonar'"
whether that's down to cakewalk or soundcloud is unclear, but at the very least, sonar users should be made aware of this... maybe it's in the sonar eula, is it?
to suggest random other software eulas require such a tag is utterly irrelevant

Oh please - that level of discussion specificity is an unrealistic expectation of any forum.

consider my expectations suitably lowered :-)

See - there you go. Happy to have helped. :)

OK, purely from boffin-like curiosity about the tech behind the scenes, I wonder how SC knows it was communicating with Sonar?  Is it a) by examining tags/info blocks in the song file itself that has been populated with info by Sonar, or is it b) part of a digital conversation that SC and Sonar have as part of the login/upload process?
 
If a) then exporting the file from Sonar and uploading via the normal browser interface could have the same result. 
 
 

Not to drag this out even more, ..... but anyone who considers Craig Anderton to be biased about Cakewalk OR Gibson (or any other audio company), obviously doesn't know anything about Craig, nor have they read any of his posts in this and other forums over the last number of years. 
 
I would venture to say that Mr Anderton is one of the most UNBIASED people in the audio field!
 
Don't take my word for it, ...... go read his posts in almost every thread on this forum. 

BobF
OK, purely from boffin-like curiosity about the tech behind the scenes, I wonder how SC knows it was communicating with Sonar?  Is it a) by examining tags/info blocks in the song file itself that has been populated with info by Sonar, or is it b) part of a digital conversation that SC and Sonar have as part of the login/upload process?
 
If a) then exporting the file from Sonar and uploading via the normal browser interface could have the same result. 
 
 

Bob,
 
I have songs on my SC page, some of which were recorded in Sonar and others not. There are no tags that I didn't insert myself. But then, I've never uploaded to SC directly from Sonar. 

joel77
I would venture to say that Mr Anderton is one of the most UNBIASED people in the audio field!
 
Don't take my word for it, ...... go read his posts in almost every thread on this forum. 

+1    Craig has done yeoman's work for the users of this forum, as well as the general public. 

pwalpwal
craig's post was a distraction, the topic is "uploading to soundcloud from sonar tags my upload with 'made using sonar'"....
 
 
....to suggest random other software eulas require such a tag is utterly irrelevant

Agreed. It came across to me as unecessarily trying to be clever, but I expect that I am wrong about that.

Did a quick test.  I bounced/exported an mp3 (LAME) from Sonar.  I examined the properties via File Explorer, with no identifying information found.
 
I then shared the file on SC from within Sonar.  Sure enough, the "Created by Sonar" lingo was there.
 
I deleted the entry from SC, then uploaded the same file via a web browser.  This time the "Created by Sonar" lingo was absent.
 
This tells me that the DAWs are identifying themselves to SC during the upload process.  Of course this doesn't tell us whether or not SC is adding the "Created by ..." by agreement, or purely on their own.

williamcopper
Anderton, I'm sorry if I've been rude to you before, but accusing someone of breaking a law is worse than rude.   Be careful, please.   I do not use the product you quoted from, and I'm reasonably sure that my use of everything I use is legal.

 
Please read what I say more carefully so that you can avoid misrepresenting my comments. I did NOT accuse you of anything. Here's what I said (bold for emphasis):
 
I think Mr. Copper might want to review the EULAs for the instruments he's using; he might be required by law to include a lot more words than just "Created in SONAR." 
 
And in reference to a post from Psychobillybob, not you (again, bold for emphasis):
 
And by the way, I don't know if you read EULAs, but a lot of sample libraries and sampled instruments require a credit. I don't know if Mr. Copper uses libraries that require credit or not, but he might want to check to see if he himself is infringing on another artist's rights by violating the terms of the sample library's agreement.
 
Question: Where am I accusing you of breaking the law? Answer: I'm not.

This reminds me a bit of car dealerships charging you for an "advertising fee", yet have no problem putting a license plate frame on your car that advertises their dealership. Next time I should charge them for advertising on the car I bought.

pwalpwal
craig's post was a distraction, the topic is "uploading to soundcloud from sonar tags my upload with 'made using sonar'"

The topic had evolved into tag lines for credit "interfering" with art. Hence my comments regarding EULAs, which were another element about tag lines for credit "interfering" with art, and therefore not only not a distraction, but totally relevant.
 
The main reason I brought it up was because I listened to Copper's music, which is orchestral in nature. A lot of orchestral libraries require a credit, and I went to the trouble to research VSL's licensing terms to support what I said. I was trying to make sure Mr. Copper, as well as others who use orchestral libraries, don't run afoul of the law out of a desire not to have to display tag lines for credit.
 
The fact that anyone would have a problem with that, or someone would fabricate that I accused someone of violating the law, truly boggles my mind.