• SONAR
  • Soundcloud interface -- CW Advertisement plastered on my track (p.7)
2015/03/23 20:28:28
Splat
Looks like cakewalk has an entry in soundclouds app store(id).

When uploading it's doing something like this (as per soundcloud with a little alteration):


/apps
All tracks that are created and uploaded using a published app include a created_with object which describes the app:
{
...
"title": "track title",
"created_with": {
"id": 666,
"name": "Sonar",
"uri": "http://api.soundcloud.com/apps/666",
"permalink_url": "http://soundcloud.com/apps/sonar"
},
...
}


Example
Using the /apps/{id}/tracks subresource it's possible to get a list of all public tracks that were created with a specific app:
$ curl "http://api.soundcloud.com...T_ID&limit=3"

This sort of thing is normal nowadays... At least your email address and birthday isn't in there (yet).

I'm quite happy for Sonar to do this, and besides I don't bother using it to upload to Soundcloud (I upload a wav direct to the website).
2015/03/23 21:33:06
MacFurse
It's hard to understand all that's gone on here. Seems to me williamcopper politely put a simple case forward asking if anyone knew how to turn off the 'extra add' feature on SC. Someone is always trying to use us in some way or another for marketing. You can usually choose no, even if after the fact, like the example of the card yard number plate or sticker (a personal dislike of mine), but at least you can remove it. So I agreed with williamcopper, but offered no comment, because I don't know how to turn it off.
 
Craig comes along and simply states, why do it that way when there is another way, or words to that effect, and gets denounced in the process. Then, IMO, a whole lot of other unnecessary comment came forth.
 
I think at times, and I include myself here, people need to stop and actively listen to what is being said, or in this case, written, before jumping in with opinion and statements - because this thread is living proof of just how much can get lost when people are formulating their response before they finish reading (understanding) what has been said. Take time out, re-read if you must, before posting.
 
You really don't need to defend yourself here Craig. You won't change those that are commited to their opinion regardless of fact. Just one of those facts of life unfortunately.
 
As always though, I have learned something from this thread, so for me, it's not all wasted.
 
Dave
 
 
2015/03/23 22:43:51
komposer
From an Armchair Analyst (that was Armchair Analyst) point of view (read point of view) this is an interesting thread.
 
One (The Afore Mentioned Armchair Analyst) might get the sense that there is a defensive tone to those who express trouble with their Sonar installations and setups. (sense, setups)
 
I had plenty of trouble in the beginning myself. I recorded countless students on an SSL board working my way through school and continued recording my own band in 2" tape land/ADAT for years after that.
 
Would I come here and post how frustrating this product is without maybe considering it's because I 'm just frustrated? Of course not, but apparently some people do. Do they stop to think and feel (possibly) that they don't need to learn just like they may have needed to learn in some other aspect of their lives?
 
Please don't stop helping the visitors of this forum from getting the most out of our investment, please keep it civil. Some of us are just idiots and/or trying to get good at ITB recording and production.
 
Some of us are recording professionals, composers, commercial score writers, thrashers, late-night dreamers or just impossible people with unrealistic expectations
 
2015/03/23 23:33:30
Psychobillybob
The OP did in fact share a frustration, some people thought the best solution was to "not use Sonar to upload it" that was not what he asked, he asked if there was a way to turn it off so it would not do that...then people piled it on as to why that was not even an issue, again insinuating that the OP actually had a reason at all to complain, I found this less than helpful.
 
Regardless of how lauded you may or may not consider the folks posting here, the simple question of "can I turn this off" did not get dealt with until much later in the thread, and frankly the answer appears to be "no" (and in the process a lot of distracting bs was presented that had no relevance at all to the original question)
 
It really does not make a hill of beans WHY he wanted to do it, or if he was using proper software license credits, the folks who appear to be somewhat (it makes no matter to me who they are, I only look at actual engineering credits anyway) made a mountain out of a molehill, when the simple answer was there all along..."Unless you are a code monkey the simple answer is no, you cannot turn off the made with Sonar tag if you upload it from within a project"
 
The fact that it only took three pages to arrive at this conclusion is a credit to the wonderful insight and technical know how of the forum itself, as usual your mileage may vary.
 
 
2015/03/23 23:53:52
Splat
Basically this is an enhancement request the OP should create in the feature and ideas forums and that is that.
2015/03/24 04:37:16
Sanderxpander
Now that the thread has reached meta-level, perhaps it's time to end it?
2015/03/24 10:43:18
williamcopper
For what it's worth, here is the official Soundcloud response.  (As a "pro unlimited" user, I actually do get responses to emails, after awhile). 
==============
If you upload directly to SoundCloud using any Sonar product it will show on the track is this manner. As things stand it's not possible to remove this from a track once uploaded.

If you would really rather have the track showing without this message on your track the only workaround that we could suggest would be to re upload the track. However, this time you would need to export the file from Sonar Platinum and then upload the track to SoundCloud using the uploader on our website.

I appreciate the additional inconvenience in doing this and so I'll mention this to our developers so they can consider making this removable in the future.

If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask.
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2015/03/24 12:58:52
Anderton
Psychobillybob
The OP did in fact share a frustration, some people thought the best solution was to "not use Sonar to upload it" that was not what he asked, he asked if there was a way to turn it off so it would not do that...

 
Wrong. Actually, what he asked was:
 
"If there is a way to eliminate this, please let me know."
 
So the solution not to use SONAR to upload the file indeed eliminates the tag, per his request.
 
then people piled it on as to why that was not even an issue, again insinuating that the OP actually had a reason at all to complain, I found this less than helpful.

 
Apparently you forgot about the people who agreed. I even said "I do agree it's unnecessary for that link to be included." Also, William Copper thanked people for their support so apparently he thought some people agreed with him. Argue with him about whether he got support or not. A discussion ensued, with different opinions presented.
 
Regardless of how lauded you may or may not consider the folks posting here, the simple question of "can I turn this off" did not get dealt with until much later in the thread, and frankly the answer appears to be "no" (and in the process a lot of distracting bs was presented that had no relevance at all to the original question)

 
Wrong again. He did NOT ask "can I turn this off." He asked ""If there is a way to eliminate this, please let me know." I gave him a solution in the 8th post, which was not "much later in the thread" by any rational standard, and which was totally relevant to what Mr. Copper actually asked, not your inaccurate paraphrasing of what he asked. 
 
The fact that it only took three pages to arrive at this conclusion is a credit to the wonderful insight and technical know how of the forum itself, as usual your mileage may vary.

 
The fact that you cannot see what he asked for was answered in the eighth post speaks for itself. Yes, the discussion did evolve to cover the concept of tags added in general, as well as the source of where the tag came from, whether Cakewalk, SoundCloud, or both were responsible for the tag being added, and if there was a hack that would allow uploading from SONAR without the tag. If you find this distracting BS, that's your call.
 
After a problem posed by an OP has been addressed and solved (in this case, post #8), it's natural that a discussion evolves into other directions.
 
2015/03/24 13:08:11
Anderton
williamcopper
For what it's worth, here is the official Soundcloud response.  (As a "pro unlimited" user, I actually do get responses to emails, after awhile). 
==============
If you upload directly to SoundCloud using any Sonar product it will show on the track is this manner. As things stand it's not possible to remove this from a track once uploaded.

If you would really rather have the track showing without this message on your track the only workaround that we could suggest would be to re upload the track. However, this time you would need to export the file from Sonar Platinum and then upload the track to SoundCloud using the uploader on our website.

I appreciate the additional inconvenience in doing this and so I'll mention this to our developers so they can consider making this removable in the future.

If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask.
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Thank you very much for the follow-up, I was curious about what their response would be. What I get from this is that it's a SoundCloud issue, not a Cakewalk one ("I'll mention this to our developers so they can consider making this removable in the future"), and the official SoundCloud solution is (please note, Psychobillybob) the solution I presented in post #8.
 
 
 
 
2015/03/24 13:16:47
Anderton
BobF
Craig - Here's something a tad more traditional if you like.
 
This article was prepared by Craig Anderton in his personal capacity. The opinions expressed in this article are the author's own and do not reflect the view of Cakewalk Inc. or Gibson Brands Inc.



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