When you double click on audio tracks, then selecting the loop window is exactly what you've done. You can change this, however. My top tip here is go and make a cup of tea and sit down with the manual for a bit.

Ah. We were trying to get rid of it.

If you press Alt+3 you get the piano roll (but it peeks up under the track view, so you need to drag the splitter bar all the way up)

Now, when you press Alt+1, you get track view. D also seems to work for some reason.

The other views also work traditionally again (although the Alt+n numbers have changed).

So Alt+2 opens Console view, Alt+6 opens Staff view, etc.

But if I undock, strange things begin to happen.

If I press Alt+1, I get track view again. But none of the other Alt+n keys work anymore. I now need to press D!

I think screen sets are easier to use. But then I want to get rid of the Multidock so I can get some screen space back.

Your second post and you think it is OK to bad mouth Cake's programmers and also get help?  Guess what, you did get help in spite of yourself!  That's the kind of team we are here.  I hope you try some of the advice given and then let us know how it works for you.

Rimshot

JazzSinger


Ah. We were trying to get rid of it.

If you press Alt+3 you get the piano roll (but it peeks up under the track view, so you need to drag the splitter bar all the way up)

Now, when you press Alt+1, you get track view. D also seems to work for some reason.

The other views also work traditionally again (although the Alt+n numbers have changed).

So Alt+2 opens Console view, Alt+6 opens Staff view, etc.

But if I undock, strange things begin to happen.

If I press Alt+1, I get track view again. But none of the other Alt+n keys work anymore. I now need to press D!

I think screen sets are easier to use. But then I want to get rid of the Multidock so I can get some screen space back.

When the PRV is free of the multidock... If you go to the top LEFT corner and click on the tiny icon next to the Menu word "File", you should find the three letter (again I don't remember but it's something similar to msi) You will have set it to be as it was in 8.5... then using Sonar Plus to totally hide the multidock and you're there...

Just remember that you need to do similar with any windows that open in the dock... If you try to open something and it doesn't seem to open, unhide the multidock using Sonar Plus, then drag the window out of the multidock and re-hide the dock... I then reset my normal template so that these decisions persist....

Keni

I think the OP is busy installing Proreapcubastud live.......

Your second post and you think it is OK to bad mouth Cake's programmers and also get help?

 
Yeah...  good point.  And "or else!" comments like this don't really help - "They better come up with an option to turn this on and off or I'm done with Sonar for good."    Somehow I don't see the bakers changing the multidock behavior which seems to be exactly as it was designed to work.   Sounds like Sonar Plus is what the OP needs...
 
 

Take some time to learn the multidock and you will learn to appreciate it. I hated XI until I used it for a while and got familiar with it. MUch better with it now and it's actually quite handy.

Take some time to learn the multidock and you will learn to appreciate it.

 
I personally love what the multi-dock does, and I simply don't care about that small bar across the bottom.   But I still think Sonar Plus is a good option for those that just can't (or don't want to) get around how the MD operates.
 

My top tip here is go and make a cup of tea and sit down with the manual for a bit.


I think this is the best advice given thus far...I would just add maybe take a valium or two with that tea.

Thanks for the replies folks ( Really, despite my aggrivated frustrated and completely annoyed state ) I appreciate your replies, Now ... here's the scoop.
 I have been using sonar since version 3, I have become quite efficient at doing what i do without the need for relearning the damn interface every time, but i put up with a certain amount of it each time I upgrade, this time I was, and still am quite pissed off and frustrated because I can't afford wasting time relearning the whole damn program in order to find a convoluted way of not using an option I dont particularly need or want right now ... so for those of you telling me to read the manual or go watch some tutorials or spend some time with it... thanks but Im not a newbie and for me TIME IS MONEY!... and for those upset by my bashing the programmers, i guess your the programmers, buddies or family of the programmers and therefore sympathetic to them RE: my message, because i was under the illusion this was a " Community USER forum "  and for anyone who doesn't get my point it is simply this...Adding "OPTIONS" is great and fantastic, just allow me the user / purchaser the choice! Thats why they are called OPTIONS because they are OPTIONAL, what would it really take a class a programmer to write the code for an on off button ( 5 - 10 minits work ) while I have wasted a few hours of time fooling around and " Reading the manual by the way "  to try to find a way to turn it off which is why I ended up here in the first place!
  So once again if your a user who has replied Thanks, if your an employee or have a connection please let them know that I am not the only one who is unhappy with this .. I know of at least 3 others i have talked to that hate the fact that you can't just clik on an X and close it out ...